Xiaomi Mi 10 Pro+ smartphone allegedly coming with 65 W fast-charge support, 120 Hz refresh rate, and a Snapdragon 865 chipset.
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why software is worse
Better in what regard ? Half of the stuff that’s on the mi series is bought from samsung including displays. You get a better OS with xiaomi, better updates(and for longer), build quality is also the same .. I think between both phones picking one over the other is a matter of taste.
Go back one or two years and compare MI 6 to MI 8 ir MI 8 to MI 9.
Can’t find that price anywhere. Cheapest I found was 800€.
yeah but no IR blaster on s20 lmao
and xiaomi device drop it price quicker
watch it drop in 6 months quick
Only specs I see that differ are the camera. Phone A has a full res 120hz display while phone B’s resolution has to be lowered in order to achieve 120hz. I don’t really see the differences since the chipset is the same.
How are she liking it?
Looking to pick up a Mi 10 note lite next month since my Redmi 3s after 3 and a half years is starting to ask for retirement.
You’re right gsm got that wrong base model is 128gb. But your entire argument is based around is the specs of Mi 10 series phones are ‘good enough’ when S20 offers more for around the same price.
The S20 and S20+ have 128gb on the entry models.
There isn’t much of a difference between 90hz and 120hz.
The Amoled on the Mi 10 is very good, definitely 2020 flagship territory.
Gorrila glass 6 is a plus?
Anyway the Mi 10 is playing un the same league with the S20+ not the smaller S20.
The 10 Pro Plus is also 120hz on fullscreen mode (max res) while the S20 Ultra can only do 120hz @ 1080p, both use Gorilla 6 glass, both have a huge battery, both have excellent cameras with Sammy having a slight edge. Other than not being waterproof I don’t see any other cons. A fully loaded S20 Ultra is gonna cost you a bit over 1,400$ , I don’t see the 10 Pro Plus costing anywhere this amount.
Ahhh my bad misread what you wrote lol, still 2 months to sell 1 million phones that’s not that bad
She finds it amazing! The camera’s are so good and the performance is great. It’s a big upgrade for her, she’s coming from a 5 year old sony smartphone or something
Eh S20 is a good phone no doubt, but I still consider Mi 10 Pro over S20, especially if you’re on a region with Exynos version.
That’s aside, Mi 10 on my region is even cheaper than S20, so there’s that.
I bought mi 10 pro for 600€ I am not mad
The Exynos variants of the S20s are certainly less attractive.
I am done with Xiaomi. Their naming convention and the number of variations of the same phone has me dizzy and confused.
Too late!
Already released and EOLed while you were typing that comment.
You can still get the Mi 11 Pro Max Mark III for 2000 Euros, but you better hurry, before even that’s……and you missed the boat!
Again!
Meanwhile, Mi 12 Max Prime Alpha already announced!
No it’s not. How many times do we need to go through this?
Those are just very long 5.5″ 16:9 phones. They’re not gonna be true large screens
Black shark 3 pro is our only choice this year so far.
To late, while we do our things Xiaomi launch Mi 14 Mini Pro MachV Mega with 8K display, 1TB ROM, 512GB RAM, full charge um 5 minutes, 8 cameras and on of them have 1K megapixel
>Very few phones that currently use the 855+ plus that are in the same price-ramge.
in what price range? mi10’s? god, go check realme x2 pro, x3 superzoom, op 7t, what the hell are u talking about? what is your point?
poco is considered flagship killer because of its spec and price, same goes for mi9t pro which was also considered flagship killer, do your math and tell me where the difference in price comes from and why poco is so much more expensive compared to mi9t pro offering nothing exlusively except for newer snapdragon and additional camera
why the heck are u even trying so hard to justify xiaomi’s moves? are you some kind of marketing manager? what is this? who are you?
Link please
Xiaomi being Xiaomi… Can’t wait to see Mi10 Pro+\^2
Listen, use common sense, the reason why these phones are no longer affordable is because it’s all new tech, you are going from having 6GB of ram to a whopping 16GB, that’s almost 200$ more in RAM alone, going from 60hz to 120hz costs an arm and a leg, you get 65W fast charging, Samsung can’t even compete with Xiaomi when it comes to fast charging. 5G modem is not cheap when compared to the 4G modem. Batteries are no longer 3300mah for a flagship, now they range from 4000-5200mah and sometimes beyond that.
That’s old tech dude, these 5G phones are night n day compared to last year’s flagships. The only part that didn’t see a significant jump is the CPU, everything else is next gen.
You are comparing flagships that saw very little increase in anything as the years went by, these new flagships are on a whole different tier. You cannot compare a 60hz SD 855 w/6 GB of RAM to a 120hz SD 865 w/ 16GB of RAM. Hence the reason for the insane price tag.
You have 1K MP camera and hiper mega super fast charge!
NFC? Wait for the next product launch ahah
With your logic, Mi 6, Mi 8 and Mi 9 were the same devices with no differences and that’s why they cost the same.
>these 5G phones are night n day compared to last year’s flagships.
what is night and day in poco f2 pro that makes it better than last year’s mi9t pro (and more pricey)? it’s basically same phone with 5g chipset and added camera (which nobody asked for) for a higher price? even the basic model has the same amount of ram
>The SD 865 is a 5G phone that incorporates a whole new chipset that allows users to jump from 4-6GB of RAM to 16GB and beyond.
right, because there are no smartphones with 12 gb of ram and snap 855+, you clearly don’t know what you are talking about
Waiting for the mi 10 non-plus-ultra edition.
Where? The global edition?
Mi 10 Pro + 1 x infinity
They definitely need to add ip 68 if their phone is gonna cost over $800
Here the S20+ was 880$ and the MI10 820$, i asked here about it, got the S20+.
Xiaomi really increased they prices this year outside of China, competing with the top ones.
This will be even more expansive.
You really need to do a gsmarena or kimovil compare then you’ll understand what you just wrote was idiotic.
>But it wasn’t always like that – Xiaomi, OnePlus phones used to be best bang for the buck.
indeed they were
xiaomi’s software was always meh, but their price was right and you could forgive them bugs, ads, etc, now software is even worse, and prices are higher
They have the Mi 10 Youth Edition (same as Lite Zoom editition) , you can try that!:)
But it wasn’t always like that – Xiaomi, OnePlus phones used to be best bang for the buck. Earlier Xiaomi and Oneplus models had flagship specs and much lower prices. Mi 6, 8, 9, all were flagships and were 200-400$ cheaper than flagships of Samsung et al… Mi 9 was a flagship and costs 400$ whereas Mi 10 nearly doubled in price.
> Xiaomi jumped the gun to go premium
This, very much. I think Xiaomi saw the opportunity with Huawei losing marketshare internationally (because of Google), and they’re trying to fill its spot, but they’re not up to par yet.
do we even have sale numbers of mi 10 series to talk ?
My next phone!
Samsung and Apple have always been expensive, this is not new. Has nothing to do with Xiaomi raising the price by double. The SD 865 is a 5G phone that incorporates a whole new chipset that allows users to jump from 4-6GB of RAM to 16GB and beyond. The 120hz full Amoled panel (which is also made by Samsung) costs more than double what we normally pay. The cameras also get a nice upgrade, you get a huge battery, haptic feedback is also improved among other things.
How do you expect Xiaomi to sell you all of the above at 399.99$??
Still single-SIM for global market?
You’re still on about the Mi 12 Pro Max Prime Alpha Plus Mark IV?
Mi XV Optimus Prime Edition with 18GB RAM and 2TB storage already announced and EOLed.
Exactly they’re king in mid range and low end budget phones but mi 10 flagship series is trash regarding what you get for the price
Wonder how that compares to Mi9, there are a lot of Mi9 users out there
is there ads in global ver,
What operation in smartphone uses 16GB of RAM?
8GB is more than enough, even 6GB is snappy
Mi 10 series is a failure imo global markets it’s priced too high, around the same as Samsung’s S20 series phones which are significantly better.
Xiaomi jumped the gun to go premium they aren’t ready yet and this phone is no exception.
Give me Mi MAX 4 ….
Still waiting for 10 SE…
Use the same common sense, look at Mi 8, Mi 9, Mi 6. Those were clearly flagship phones for the tech that was inside them and what e.g. Samsung was delivering for a much larger price. Somehow that didn’t stop Xiaomi to make those phones affordable? Sure, Mi 9 to Mi 10 is an improvement, not going to deny that. But so was Mi 6 to Mi 8 and Mi 8 to Mi 9 while prices remained the same (~400€). I could also list the things that were improved in Mi 9 or Mi 8, yet price didn’t just double out of nowhere. It’s all due to Apple and Samsung increasing their prices and nothing more.
I just did, didn’t see any differences other than the size of the phone, the camera, and the res. Everything else is almost identical.
My mom bought the mi 10 lite forr 320€, for those specs thats a steal. I cant say about the normal mi 10 tho
Pro Plus Max Ultra Transparent Super Lite S Edition
You didn’t understand the point, where Xiaomi is putting the price it’s a direct competitor to the S20 phones and they are just better all-round phones no one can argue that. I’m a big Xiaomi fan don’t get me wrong but I wouldn’t even consider getting a mi 10 pro over a s20
Seriously? Better OS, well that’s subjective so we’ll leave that there.
As far as update I don’t know how someone can be that misinformed, if you own a Xiaomi phone you’d know updates are completely irregular, you apparently missed the android one Xiaomi phone scandal where Google called them out for not updating their phones. Samsung S20 phones get updated monthly with the latest security patch before Google does on the pixel phones lol, every single month since it’s release.
Mi has gorilla glass 5, S20 has 6, higher ppi 2x amoled, ip68, 32bit audio, 15 more LTE bands with cat20, let’s not get started on the superior cameras and after sales support.
People buy iPhones during many years. With less hardware specs and features and for higher price. Just for different OS. And they happy with it. So – yes. If it has somethink that they want (xiaomi ecosystem for example)
Only way to compare last year’s flagships to this year’s flagships is this way..
In order for your logic to be true we would have to compare an SD 855 with 6 GB of RAM and a 60hz screen (2019) to an SD 865 with 8GB of ram and a 90hz screen (2020). This in theory would lower the pricetag to about 600$ give or take which you say should cost 399.99$.
But it’s not a large phone. Every time a max user ask for a new large phone, 6.7″ gets suggested. Yeah, we get it, every oem and their mother makes a 6.7″ phone. They’re still not large phones. They’re the reason why max haven’t continued cause it’s so damn hard to market the max series when people look at the numbers and go “oh, it’s only 0.2 inch difference” when it’s heaven and earth thanks to the aspect ratio that never gets mentioned in headlines.
Just, ugggghh
The mi note 10 lite is the best mid range in their line up but the mi 10 and mi 10 plus are not cheap at all and for an even cheaper price you can get the one plus 8 pro which is 100 % better
Lol ip68, 2x amoled, consistent monthly updates, 120hz, gorilla glass 6, entry model has 256gb, 128gb on mi oh and you can pick up a S20 basic model for about $100 less than the 10 pro.
Don’t buy the phone then, there are many options to choose from at every price point.
I could find on Aliexpress, shipping from Spain, for 560 Euros, which is a great price for the Mi 10
Based on reveal of Redmi Note 9 Pro Max, the part “Max” was as spiritual successor of Mi Max series because those will not be continued. And the screen is 6.7 so it’s quite big and Redmi Note 9S is bellow 200 euroes.
Maybe that could be your choice.
What he means is – you have two phones around the same price. Phone A has less specs and features than phone B. Why would you ever purchase phone A?
yup, you can turn them off, but ofc it’s bugged as everything in xiaomi and after app update (like their stock music app for example) it reverts back to showing you ads (even tho they are still turned off lol)
Yes they were flagship killers till 120hz phones came out, that’s no longer the case. Things have changed since the Poco F2 and 9T Pro.
chrome
At least add ip rating
> MAYBE THAT COULD BE YOUR CHOICE
I really don’t care whether you like it or not, it was a suggestion and it was what they’ve said.
It already has a SD865, but adding 4 more GB of RAM, when 12 is more than enough, is a bit much. 120Hz vs 90? I couldn’t care less. And an extra 2x on zoom! Yippee! I got my 10 Pro for a good deal, but have no desire to “upgrade” to a + model.
1 million apparently for both models in China and globally, given everything that’s been going on that’s not bad but it doesn’t even come close to k20 and k20 pro (excluding mi 9t and pro, the global version) that sold 4.5 million by December.
Oh no. The 65w gimmick is staying around. Let’s hope it isn’t as difficult as the black shark to repair.
The F2 Pro is basically the equivalent of the K30, not sure what your point is. Very few phones that currently use the 855+ plus that are in the same price-ramge. Plus the fact that the poco F2 plus is not a flagship phone, just because it has a 865 doesn’t make it a flagship.
The info about 1mil sold units is from april so yea
give it a memory slot and a headphone jack ffs
the only phone that more or less has it all it the Sony Xperia 1 II with the price from outer space
Xiaomi phones trying to be a laptop, while Apple (ARM) laptops trying to be a phone.
… They will be the same thing once foldable screens and more efficient batteries are here
Where’s the international version with NFC but 500MP camera?
more bugs (even their last launcher’s update was bad and caused non-stop crashes, on phones with android 9 and lower), bricks (look out for yourself how many ppl have problems with that), annoying ads, their android one serie is total failure, they release so many models and they promise to give at least one update, now think how would you be able to keep quality when you have like 100 phones to update?
Aren’t we taking about the Mi 10 Pro Plus?
Ok, now tell me this. Give me a reason to buy the S20 over the Mi 10 Pro.
Remember we are not talking about the S20 Ultra.
>Mi 10 series is a failure imo global markets it’s priced too high
Do we have numbers for that? I’m curious if it’s selling well.
How is the Mi 10 pro a failure? No one will argue the price is too high but the phone itself is really good. Reviews are good. Good battery life and charging. Good cameras. Good display. One of, if not the best sounding speakers on a phone.
The only major negative I see is the lack of IP rating.
It’s a flagship, it has 16gb of ram, SD 865/5G, of course it’s going to cost an arm and a leg..All 120hz phones are upwards of 800$
but no IR blaster 😎
>You get a better OS with xiaomi, better updates(and for longer),
you kidding right? we’re living in 2020 and xiaomi’s software is even worse than it was in 2018, not to mention fricking updates, which are very poor