Trump administration adds China’s Comac, Xiaomi to Chinese military blacklist
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same here. had a hefty amount of money un there. now that it crashed im kinda screwed :D. lets just hop biden will lift the ban.
https://fossbytes.com/xiaomi-devices-found-tracking-and-recording-browsing-data-of-millions/
I have xiaomi but come on, don’t be naive.
**EVERYONE** does it.
Military Class Phones. That’s nice.
Are you really a Russian troll being allowed out in the wild?
Amazing how effective American propaganda is.
flash a china specific rom then lol, but make sure to not lock the bootloader after flashing it or it’ll brick your phone
And what about Huawei?
> **The China-based router maker (Huawei) says a few lines of Cisco source code inadvertently got into its products.** But the copying wasn’t as pervasive as Cisco claims in a lawsuit, the company says.
https://www.cnet.com/news/huawei-admits-to-a-little-copying
This sub is not for politics, but:
> Biden election official [has been arrested](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eroi_wTXIAkZiYC?format=jpg&name=large) for widespread election fraud in Texas. Felony charges include election fraud, illegal voting, illegal vote-by-mail, possession of official ballots.
They are selling consumer equipments in US. No smartphones. Anyway this ban doesn’t affect any of that.
“We know Xiaomi, maybe we ban Xiaomi!“ 🥴 dont know if Biden will remove Xiaomi from the list. Its very bad news.. You can see Huawei is fckd up cause of the ban.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/b0o58q/is_xiaomi_spying_like_huawei_is_supposedly_spying/
the guy already pardon like 90 something people, I’m surprised he didn’t try to attack Iran/Syria the day before Biden’s inauguration
Yeah, none of that provides evidence of Huawei spying on it’s international phone customers, you know, the thing I’m talking about.
>If you think that’s all bullshit
Where did I say that was bullshit? Stop being presumptive.
>While there are a lot of questions around that Bloomberg article
It was bullshit. Flat out.
> it is curious that the hyper-litigious Apple never filed for a retraction
Huh, really?
>However, Apple CEO Tim Cook and AWS CEO Andy Jassy denied the claims and called for Bloomberg to retract the article. And a few months later, the third-party investigations firm Nardello & Co examined the claims and cleared Supermicro of any surreptitious activity.
So it was bullshit. Basically, proaganda made by the State Department.
>Supermicro ended up moving their facilities out of China.
[Because a reputable publication made severe allegations. If you owned a company that was seen as colluding with China, wouldn’t you move out of China regardless? Seems they thought the same way:
>And now, Nikkei Asian Review reports that despite the strong rebuttals, some customers remain cautious about the company’s products. To address those concerns, Nikkei says Supermicro has told suppliers to move production out of China, citing industry sources familiar with the matter.
Could it have also been because of the trade war that was going to see rising prices in the exact industry they operated in, that the US was targeting with tariffs? Maybe added bonus that it’s based in Cali. Go figure, all Americans are going to be seeing a huge increase in computer hardware prices. We’re already seeing that with [ASUS](https://www.pcgamer.com/tech-tariffs-and-scarcity-add-up-to-big-pc-hardware-price-hikes-and-asus-is-kicking-it-off/):
>We have an announcement in regards to MSRP price changes that are effective in early 2021 for our award-winning series of graphics cards and motherboards. Our new MSRP reflects increases in cost for components, operating costs, and logistical activities plus a continuation of import tariffs. We worked closely with our supply and logistic partners to minimize price increases. ASUS greatly appreciates your continued business and support as we navigate through this time of unprecedented market change.
Which gives more support for the previous article I linked saying:
>It also has the side benefit of mitigating against the U.S.-China trade war, which is only getting worse. Since the tariffs are on the dollar amount of the product, that can quickly add up even for a low-end system, as Serve The Home noted in this analysis.
So it was really for business trust and the money.
>I doubt Bloomberg got everything right, but perhaps it wasn’t all wrong.
I mean, they didnt prove a single thing they said. It was an obvious push out from the US government to spin up more public support for the incoming rise in costs, like we’re seeing right now. They had a bunch of people within the US government saying it’s real, yet… nobody else.
Again, I’m not debating those points with you. I dont know about them or looked in to them enough. Those emails are pretty fucking damning toward straight up commercial espionage and theft. I was speaking specifically towards Huawei spying on international consumers via their phones. That drastically affects possibly hundreds of millions of people and dozens of governments (includeing nuclear armed ones) around the world, not just a singular company’s IP. They are on different scales.
> critical 5g infrastructure
im of an opinion 5g infra that was just an excuse. real goal as always and ever historically is to hamper global competition.
But it’s been changed, right? That’s no longer happening, right?
Oh, fuck off. You know I didn’t mind losing Huawei because it was overpriced, but without Xiaomi the market where I live is just more overpriced crap in the “mid” range, more like Samsung J-tier crap priced like midranges (I don’t care it’s now all called A) that last almost nothing and then their internal memory gets filled with invisible dark matter, LG lowtier stuff, Motorola and Nokia ugly barebones uncustomizable near-stock Android phones which I ｌｏａｔｈｅ, and fucking Apple.
Any other worthwhile, sanely-priced brand in not in danger of being a casualty of international tensions?
Nothing to see here except for more Human Nature. Humans are the most disloyal, destructive and self-centered organism in the whole universe. We just can’t seem to get along because people just like to play competitions on who is a bigger D@#K.
Xiaomi is well known company for spying on it’s consumers so no big deal.
trump has a point there, miui has a whole lotta trackers this data is being siphoned to chinese servers
There’s 0 evidence of China collecting foreign consumer data through Huawei devices.
Pretty much. What evidence did they present about Huawei spying on their customers (outside China)? None. Bloomberg came out with a couple “blockbuster” headlines that ended up being bullshit. It’s all economic protectionism.
It is also funny to read the comments here. If you hate Trump, grab the upvotes, but if you criticize the other side, get downvoted.
Saying this as a loyal Xiaomi customer, but it isn’t impossible that they are doing something similar for Winnie the Pooh as Huawei does. Nobody is free from the government in China.
That’s about copyright infringement, not spying on consumers. Stop spreading bs.
If Huawei is China’s spy company then Microsoft is the USA’s
To be honest if Xiaomi gets on the Entity list that’s adios for me and Xiaomi. Whatever Huawei is doing nowadays is just plain bad for anyone living outside of China, and I wouldn’t give too much wings to a CCP-sponsored company to build a propietary OS. Xiaomi night be chinese but you can be damn sure about what your phone does just by checking ADB, thing that Huawei stopped providing.
No, but I’m not going to make an assertive statement accusing a foreign government of spying on American citizens just because they can. Innocent until proven guilty and whatnot.
[https://imgur.com/a/YogfIdP](https://imgur.com/a/YogfIdP)
Well, You can find them all over Amazon, just not sold by a major carrier. I love Xioami phones
> Oh, fuck off. You know I didn’t mind losing Huawei because it was overpriced
Huawei wasn’t overpriced for the quality it delivered. The software was good, updates were regular, and it had the best camera outside of the Pixel line in the Android world. For all of that it was cheaper than the Samsungs and offered reasonable mid-range models.
> I’d bet a pretty penny Biden will remove Xiaomi from this banned list.
Hoping so. I’m investing in Xiaomi, and today it dipped heavily following the news. I’m glad he’s impeached. The guy is trying to make it as much as a dumpster fire as possible before being kicked out.
Wait until it will then all of a sudden the narrative could change.
I can respect that choice though. Letting a company with extensive ties to a foreign government be included in infrastructure projects that could affect national security is something any government should question. A blind ban for consumer products is way over the top though.
No more Qualcomm processor for Xiaomi, sad really. No more custom rom, custom kernel, etc. we will be stuck using Mediatek or HiSilicon processor.
No, but you can’t discard that a device that you can’t know for sure what it does and doesn’t is shady. And while yes, Apple is guilty of the same sin, they get jailbreak eventually so they have to tread lightly. Huawei is a company that I just wouldn’t trust anywhere in the near future.
Do they have any chinese military connection? Also, why now? Why not ban it with huawei?
UK said it was because they didn’t believe they could provide anything secure in the future, nothing to do with what they’d done previously. Unreal.
It’s not. Stop using language that presumes shit. It’s fucking annoying.
Are you suppose to be making a racist attack against me (hint: I’m not Chinese) or is there something I am missing?
Holy shit! i always knew my social credit score would be negatively effected by the trump administration
Your proof please ?
It has the potential to affect users worldwide, since Google is an American company and most of us use its services daily. Huawei lost the ability to have Google software and services on their phones because of US bans.
The tracking you consent to and can turn off? Don’t be stupid.
Also,
>The company has updated its blog post with another announcement. The latest update of the Mi browser (v12.1.4) and Mint browser (v3.4.3) includes a toggle to turn off aggregated usage data collection in the incognito mode.
Trump amirite
This is not true. It is not the “entity list”.
It’s no coincidence that Huawei was banned after he met Tim Apple.
> I’m not sure it’s particularly meaningful to distinguish international phone customers from other customers that have caught them spying
NOBODY HAS CAUGHT THEM SPYING! I just spent 30 minutes of my life explaining to you that they haven’t been caught spying on anyone. How can you not see the difference between spying on foreigners is different than spying on your own people? That’s the distinction if you didnt get it. They spy on their own people through software embedded in the skin they put on the OS. They do not do that with their internationally sold phones.
>Great P.R., but meaningless until they legally force Bloomberg to retract.
Where are the goalposts now?
>The idea that Bloomberg would be on Trump’s side in the trade war is honestly pretty laughable.
Your opinion is irrelevant to facts.
>here isn’t anything especially conspiratorial about it. No doubt the Americans, Russians, etc. all have their own programs. Huawei has just been caught too many times to pretend to have even remotely clean hands.
Why are you ignoring the issue and then acting like some tertiary stuff means something that it doesnt? Look, I’m done arguing with you over shit i just proved.
Heh i know that china roms don’t have it, i just want to be able to use the phone without learning chinese. Mah no matter, the custom ROM community is great, though i already see a trend where most of the effing roms have the google services included. Thankfully not all do (shoutout to Arrow and NitrogenOS).
> Biden election official
[citation needed]
Btw. U dont realy think that they will ban xiaomi from using andorid. It would affect on google aswell. Xiaomi is worldwide no. 3 and dont think that google want to lose them. Stock is cheap Right now. Invest while others are afraid 😉
I would love to have the international MIUI without google spyware (play) services. If i try to remove them the phone bootloops, so maybe this will nudge them in that direction heh.
Microsoft? I’d rather say Google and Facebook.
That means nothing. Anyone can be racist. What was the point of the comment you were making?
Your source is a Reddit post? Are you serious?
What are you 5?
Does this affect models currently released or future models ?
My mate 20 was pre ban and not affected.
Here, sir, let me try and even your up/downvotes a bit.
It doesn’t matter if Huawei was actually spyig on US. individuals, proof of system-wide espionage and their deep integration with the Chinese government and military should be a big warning sign for any foreign government.
If Apple was like Huawei for the US. government, you can bet I would say the same.
Bruh for people claiming that the Xiaomi data collection is fraud, just look up at the multiple articles about them.
People be downvoting comments like paid chinese trolls without researching first.
It might not matter for most of us but the data siphoning is bad for America for various reason, especially from China.
Those who buy Xiaomi phones, just flash and load up a custom rom if you want safety and privacy.
The current blacklist only affects investors. Xiaomi is still allowed to purchase parts and software from American business partners.
Only when Xiaomi is put on the famous “entity list” will things get really dark for Xiaomi. But I don’t believe that for now. Xiaomi does not produce critical 5g infrastructure and is otherwise only active in the consumer electronics sector.
I mean can’t we stop talking about ‘Murica at least in this subreddit?
Who the f*** cares about the US so much anyways?
Guys. Dont let trump win this Game. Let put More money into it and help Xioami grow! #trumphasnoaffectanylonger
Ah yes, because gathering data in incognito mode is the most normal thing in the world. Consenting doesn’t justify it.
And they only changed it after the backlash.
Xiaomi should sue him for Billions. Xiaomi isn’t even in the US. This is clearly harrasment and discrimination.
Downvote me all you want dumbtards. No company should be bullied by China or the US just because they beat their brainwash trash in sales
To be fair shit didn’t go downhill for Huaweii until they tried selling their products in the US and the Trump admin publicly cockblocked them. Xiaomi is going to wait and feel out Biden before making the same mistake.
Google and Facebook sells ads well because they know what people do to precisely target the ads. To think that the US government ain’t after data about how specific groups of people think and behave is rather optimistic.