“We know Xiaomi, maybe we ban Xiaomi!“ 🥴 dont know if Biden will remove Xiaomi from the list. Its very bad news.. You can see Huawei is fckd up cause of the ban.

Xiaomi is well known company for spying on it’s consumers so no big deal.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/b0o58q/is_xiaomi_spying_like_huawei_is_supposedly_spying/

trump has a point there, miui has a whole lotta trackers this data is being siphoned to chinese servers

To be honest if Xiaomi gets on the Entity list that’s adios for me and Xiaomi. Whatever Huawei is doing nowadays is just plain bad for anyone living outside of China, and I wouldn’t give too much wings to a CCP-sponsored company to build a propietary OS. Xiaomi night be chinese but you can be damn sure about what your phone does just by checking ADB, thing that Huawei stopped providing.

Guys. Dont let trump win this Game. Let put More money into it and help Xioami grow! #trumphasnoaffectanylonger

**EVERYONE** does it.

There’s 0 evidence of China collecting foreign consumer data through Huawei devices.

That’s about copyright infringement, not spying on consumers. Stop spreading bs.

Trump amirite

Are you really a Russian troll being allowed out in the wild?

It’s no coincidence that Huawei was banned after he met Tim Apple.

If Huawei is China’s spy company then Microsoft is the USA’s

Oh, fuck off. You know I didn’t mind losing Huawei because it was overpriced, but without Xiaomi the market where I live is just more overpriced crap in the “mid” range, more like Samsung J-tier crap priced like midranges (I don’t care it’s now all called A) that last almost nothing and then their internal memory gets filled with invisible dark matter, LG lowtier stuff, Motorola and Nokia ugly barebones uncustomizable near-stock Android phones which I ｌｏａｔｈｅ, and fucking Apple.

Any other worthwhile, sanely-priced brand in not in danger of being a casualty of international tensions?

the guy already pardon like 90 something people, I’m surprised he didn’t try to attack Iran/Syria the day before Biden’s inauguration

I can respect that choice though. Letting a company with extensive ties to a foreign government be included in infrastructure projects that could affect national security is something any government should question. A blind ban for consumer products is way over the top though.

Microsoft? I’d rather say Google and Facebook.

Yeah, none of that provides evidence of Huawei spying on it’s international phone customers, you know, the thing I’m talking about.

>If you think that’s all bullshit

Where did I say that was bullshit? Stop being presumptive.

>While there are a lot of questions around that Bloomberg article

It was bullshit. Flat out.

> it is curious that the hyper-litigious Apple never filed for a retraction

Huh, really?

>However, Apple CEO Tim Cook and AWS CEO Andy Jassy denied the claims and called for Bloomberg to retract the article. And a few months later, the third-party investigations firm Nardello & Co examined the claims and cleared Supermicro of any surreptitious activity.

So it was bullshit. Basically, proaganda made by the State Department.

>Supermicro ended up moving their facilities out of China.

[Because a reputable publication made severe allegations. If you owned a company that was seen as colluding with China, wouldn’t you move out of China regardless? Seems they thought the same way:

>And now, Nikkei Asian Review reports that despite the strong rebuttals, some customers remain cautious about the company’s products. To address those concerns, Nikkei says Supermicro has told suppliers to move production out of China, citing industry sources familiar with the matter.

Could it have also been because of the trade war that was going to see rising prices in the exact industry they operated in, that the US was targeting with tariffs? Maybe added bonus that it’s based in Cali. Go figure, all Americans are going to be seeing a huge increase in computer hardware prices. We’re already seeing that with [ASUS](https://www.pcgamer.com/tech-tariffs-and-scarcity-add-up-to-big-pc-hardware-price-hikes-and-asus-is-kicking-it-off/):

>We have an announcement in regards to MSRP price changes that are effective in early 2021 for our award-winning series of graphics cards and motherboards. Our new MSRP reflects increases in cost for components, operating costs, and logistical activities plus a continuation of import tariffs. We worked closely with our supply and logistic partners to minimize price increases. ASUS greatly appreciates your continued business and support as we navigate through this time of unprecedented market change.

Which gives more support for the previous article I linked saying:

>It also has the side benefit of mitigating against the U.S.-China trade war, which is only getting worse. Since the tariffs are on the dollar amount of the product, that can quickly add up even for a low-end system, as Serve The Home noted in this analysis.

So it was really for business trust and the money.

>I doubt Bloomberg got everything right, but perhaps it wasn’t all wrong.

I mean, they didnt prove a single thing they said. It was an obvious push out from the US government to spin up more public support for the incoming rise in costs, like we’re seeing right now. They had a bunch of people within the US government saying it’s real, yet… nobody else.

Again, I’m not debating those points with you. I dont know about them or looked in to them enough. Those emails are pretty fucking damning toward straight up commercial espionage and theft. I was speaking specifically towards Huawei spying on international consumers via their phones. That drastically affects possibly hundreds of millions of people and dozens of governments (includeing nuclear armed ones) around the world, not just a singular company’s IP. They are on different scales.

> I’m not sure it’s particularly meaningful to distinguish international phone customers from other customers that have caught them spying

NOBODY HAS CAUGHT THEM SPYING! I just spent 30 minutes of my life explaining to you that they haven’t been caught spying on anyone. How can you not see the difference between spying on foreigners is different than spying on your own people? That’s the distinction if you didnt get it. They spy on their own people through software embedded in the skin they put on the OS. They do not do that with their internationally sold phones.

>Great P.R., but meaningless until they legally force Bloomberg to retract.

Where are the goalposts now?

>The idea that Bloomberg would be on Trump’s side in the trade war is honestly pretty laughable.

Your opinion is irrelevant to facts.

>here isn’t anything especially conspiratorial about it. No doubt the Americans, Russians, etc. all have their own programs. Huawei has just been caught too many times to pretend to have even remotely clean hands.

Why are you ignoring the issue and then acting like some tertiary stuff means something that it doesnt? Look, I’m done arguing with you over shit i just proved.

Google and Facebook sells ads well because they know what people do to precisely target the ads. To think that the US government ain’t after data about how specific groups of people think and behave is rather optimistic.

Amazing how effective American propaganda is.

I mean can’t we stop talking about ‘Murica at least in this subreddit?
Who the f*** cares about the US so much anyways?

It is also funny to read the comments here. If you hate Trump, grab the upvotes, but if you criticize the other side, get downvoted.

Saying this as a loyal Xiaomi customer, but it isn’t impossible that they are doing something similar for Winnie the Pooh as Huawei does. Nobody is free from the government in China.

I would love to have the international MIUI without google spyware (play) services. If i try to remove them the phone bootloops, so maybe this will nudge them in that direction heh.

flash a china specific rom then lol, but make sure to not lock the bootloader after flashing it or it’ll brick your phone

Nothing to see here except for more Human Nature. Humans are the most disloyal, destructive and self-centered organism in the whole universe. We just can’t seem to get along because people just like to play competitions on who is a bigger D@#K.

Bruh for people claiming that the Xiaomi data collection is fraud, just look up at the multiple articles about them.
People be downvoting comments like paid chinese trolls without researching first.

It might not matter for most of us but the data siphoning is bad for America for various reason, especially from China.

Those who buy Xiaomi phones, just flash and load up a custom rom if you want safety and privacy.

Do they have any chinese military connection? Also, why now? Why not ban it with huawei?

Well, You can find them all over Amazon, just not sold by a major carrier. I love Xioami phones

The tracking you consent to and can turn off? Don’t be stupid.

Also,

>The company has updated its blog post with another announcement. The latest update of the Mi browser (v12.1.4) and Mint browser (v3.4.3) includes a toggle to turn off aggregated usage data collection in the incognito mode.

But it’s been changed, right? That’s no longer happening, right?