Xiaomi promises Poco update for 960 fps slo mo and better battery life
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The beta program has had this feature for a while now. Based on our tests, it is only able to capture the last \~.5 second the scene in 960 FPS, unlike the 120 FPs or 240 FPS option which is longer.
/u/goforbg can you confirm the actual duration of the scene being recorded? Will it be longer on the beta?
For reference, here’s our [actual sample video shot in 960 FPS](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFEMl9JCBcg).
As content creators, we would benefit greatly from 4K 60FPS. Shooting b-rolls in a higher frame rate like 60 FPS reduces camera shake, and the higher resolution allows us to digitally zoom in on video cuts and render the entire sequence without losing detail brought about by digital upscaling – i.e. if you zoom in on a smaller part of a 1080P clip, that part of the clip will be stretched to cover the 1080P when it gets rendered in 1080P for the finished video.
Cool. What stuff do you shoot slow motion videos of, usually?
We are on the beta program so we’ve had this for a while now but as far as we can recall, the Pocophone F1 supported 120 FPS and 240 FPS out of the box.
The 960 FPS is limited to only \~.5 second (estimate based on our tests, see video link below). Not sure if this will change in a future update.
It’s good for marketing to throw large numbers, but can you provide practical examples where a \~.5 second recording slowed down to 960 FPS would prove more useful than, say, a 120 or 240 FPS video?
[960FPS super slow motion video sample taken on the Pocophone F1 (RAW)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFEMl9JCBcg)
The phone’s ram isn’t really the issue, as it can’t handle the bandwidth required for raw sensor data at those kinds of numbers anyway. You need a really high bandwidth cache connected to the sensor to offload that much sensor raw data. See the galaxy S9/xperia zxs, which uses a sensor module with a dedicated high bandwidth DRAM cache connected directly to the sensor itself to achieve only 0.2s of 720p at 960fps. Without this or equivalent hardware there’s not much you can do, except to use software interpolation tricks like xiaomi does.
Sure thing. But also you don’t need to store whole image (720×1280 is enough as RAW) and RAM you have about 3GB to use at any time. You don’t need to store all 1000photos, record of 1/2 second (500 frames) is also enough (15 seconds at 30fps). Then you can compress and save those as a movie while recording normally (30fps) and repeat making a movie that slows down and speeds up constantly. The only thing i’m worried is if you can dump image from sensor to RAM and prepare for another pic fast enough even if it’s low-res.
1 photo with 1/1000 second exposure is one thing, 1000 photos within a second is another. I most certainly am not an expert on this topic, but I’ve read a bit about it. The issue here is that if you make the 1000 photos a second you have to have a very fast storage to “catch” all the photos (frames of a video) for processing on the fly. The sensor in aforementioned phones does not have that fast/that big of a cache to store the frames and process them on the fly. AFAIK, the Pixel 3/XL has the same sensor as Xiaomi flagships and also can’t capture 960fps slow-mo.
I’m also dissappointed with 960 fps on mix 2s, but wondering if it would be possible with good software. Mix 2s is capable to take a shot with 1/1000 second of exposition. If it would do 1000 shots per second, at least with 1280×720 resolution, It would be possible to make 1kfps video.
haha, we just had a BBC cameraman doing some training at my TV station and he said filming and editing on phones is the future – rigs, lights, audio and external monitors are now available for mobile phones. I shoot slow motion all the time on my Mi A1 (lol) but i’m a cinematographer so I prefer video to photo.
If you have kids and you’re on trip, you’ll know.
Thanks yes I always get confused around January
Good for you, as Lithuanian I don’t have that feature
No ads and better wifi band support
Why tho?
I’ll get brexit ads?
Set it to UK
Better update your f*ing calculator app to be able to switch between “,” and “.”, and that clock app to look like every other system app, and not like something just thrown in. Muh “ambient sounds”….
That was when I switched to region India… And the cricket news. But on HK, there is none.
Software interpolation to try to create the “in-between” frames. That means little and fast moving particles such as sand, etc, will never look good, but big, slower subjects can look decent in the faked slow mo.
And I don’t know a single person who uses widevine (Netflix etc) on their phone.
It’s almost like different people have different priorities and yours aren’t more important just because you think they are.
Ice Cream Sandwich? That’s 4.0. You mean Oreo (8.0) right?
I know right, it’s already amazing!
The pie update drains noticeably faster than it did on ICS
I doubt the guy running the pocophone department is going to tell you about mi 8 news…
Better battery life? Holy shit, I can get 2 days with light to moderate use and a full day and then some with heavy usage.
maybe they fixed it, but when I changed, I start getting ramadan reminders 😀 and other indian holiday notiflications
Which news? I’m not using the Poco launcher btw.
And my calentar has all my national holidays, I’m not from China btw.
I had the system set up for my country for a week then I changed it to HK.
I’m still seeing my national holidays, and I’m not from China.
lmfao
Try OpenCamera – you should be able to get 4k 30fps with EIS: [https://youtu.be/rxerUpwgOq0?t=886](https://youtu.be/rxerUpwgOq0?t=886)
You are basically saying that you live in China so you will only see news from China and holiday days from china
Calendar is all Fu*ked
Yassss!! More phone time while pooping on the street.
Totally off topic.
Is there any downside of setting your region to Hong Kong?
I’ve done it 2 weeks ago and I have yet to see an ad or something negative.
Face unlock works perfectly btw.
u/matterwitu claimed they’re working on an OTA solution. From all I’ve read about Widevine that seems impossible, since it’s a hardware thing, but we’ll see. If they actually do it, it’ll be groundbreaking and might be useful for the custom ROM community as well.
mI 9 lEaKeD
The Night Mode isn’t even close to google’s night sight. Installed gcam on Mi Mix 2S. But it’s better than without and faster than google’s night sight.
10.1.2.0 CN should have it. I am on it and I have both 960fps and Night mode.
install tiktok on ur phone , slow-motion videos are the best.
but I don’t know anyone who uploads 4k 60 fps videos captured by camera phone.
>Widevine L1 certification.
How is this going to be done? With an OTA -update?
I wish the Mi A2’s camera app could support 4K filiming. There’s no reason for that being disabled since it’s hardware is perfectly able to handle 4K filiming.
Widevine should be top priority guys,.followed by 4k 60FPS. I don’t even know a single person who takes slo-movl vids.
Other than this, good job on the update frequency. Really appreciate the constant communication with you users.
Yeah. I read the title correctly. I want mi 9. It’s just my wish
Mi 9? Poco F2
Main sensor in all these phones (mi8, mix2s, mix3, poco f1) is incapable of caching so many fps, so xiaomi interpolates 240fps slow motion to 960fps. I was playing around with it on my mix 2s and it’s clearly visible to me that it isn’t true 960fps. But a nice gimmick nonetheless.
How so? I am unaware as to how it can be faked
They should make face unlock global thing…
I’m on 10.1.2.0 CN and still nada.
In guessing this is the same type of “960fps”-mode the mix3 has? A fake one, that is..?
I allready have 960FPS and night mode on my MI8 – [10.1.2.0](https://10.1.2.0) Global stable release.
What about Mi8?
Eagerly waiting for mi 9
[~~#~~**POCO**](https://twitter.com/hashtag/POCO?src=hash) Fans! 960FPS slo-mo & Night mode is coming to the stable build for your [~~#~~**MasterOfSpeed**](https://twitter.com/hashtag/MasterOfSpeed?src=hash) in the coming two weeks. As a part of this update, we are also optimizing the reported battery drain & touch issues. Apologies for the slight delay on this. And regarding 4K 60 FPS, we will be rolling it out in the stable update in February. We are working with our partners to also provide Widevine L1 certification. We will continue to focus on providing the best experience on POCO F1.