Xiaomi Mint Browser gathers Incognito browsing history on remote servers
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Yes. I’m using a OP 5 since a few years but it’s one of the reason why I’m probably switching to an iPhone next time, regardless if I have to pay more for the same hardware performance. I’m apparently paying just as much if one counts personal data as well and while Apple does not seem to be a saint, in comparison to all these Chinese manufacturers, they are winning in the privacy area. Yup, gladly paying the premium then.
China is not “further away”. They’re always expanding. Chinese companies are purchasing thousands of patents every day and they’re always investing into European and North American companies. Any dissenting fact or opinion about China in any Fortune 500 company will result in a PIP without a reason.
oh sorry i didn’t see the incognito part. Chrome does keep a record of your regular chrome though.
That doesn’t justify the practice.
Incognito mode does not offer anonymity in any browser. Incognito is for not saving data, searches and cookies in a site you visit
i haven’t seen a video show it, it they do that might be something that needs attention, but this is just silly
But it should be banned for everybody. Not for some.
only elders and … buddas;)
yeah not invinsible from your ISP
as soon as you login to chrome with a google account, it does the exact same thing. People are only complaining because this is a chinese company
The video does show that:
a) data is sent to [sa.api.intl.miui.com](https://sa.api.intl.miui.com)
b) the data contains a (presumably unique) identifier tied to a specific browser
c) the data contains, amongst others, every link that you open (which I would certainly consider private)
So what are you saying? Does [Miui.com](https://Miui.com) not belong to Xiaomi? Do you consider Websites you visit not private? Is the video fake? I’m curious about your reasoning.
And yet no other reputable company google, OnePlus etc do this. Besides if a shop tries to load their own OS (lmao) wouldn’t that require the seal to be opened making the device unsellable to anyone who has a brain?
Still he has a point
It can Download videos from almost every social media
They can, yes. I am fully aware of that. However, they have that much clearer in their T&C, Apple explicitly state in what situations my privacy is guaranteed and as a US company they would be sued to oblivion if there is a lot of systematic breach. They have actually doubled down several times on data privacy. A Chinese company can get away with much more (which gets apparent right now). Not trying to be a fanboy but at least the situation is not so f-ing dubious as with these cheap Chinese producers.
No they don’t. Before selecting default it has option pushed at you of mi browser or others.
Can anyone give me a list of tech companies that doesn’t steal data?
I encourage every one of you making claims that every other country and browser does this, to make their own video using the tools he provided. Make a video proving that Chrome’s incognito mode does the same if you really believe that.
Instead of accepting your foregone privacy as a norm, fight for it instead of wasting energy fighting against the people who want to protect themselves.
It’s abysmal that data collection on users, especially to this extent, has become normal practice. I’ll be very interested to see Xiaomi’s response too as it clearly discredits there earlier response regarding the UUID. Props for making the video and highlighting this, I’m glad some people have started taking privacy more seriously.
their “tv remote” app requires permission for everything… just saying….
their “xiaomi home” app is even worst
All software needs to track data, as a developer i know this too well. What google/facebook/apple does is record your every movement from the time you wake up, what you bought for lunch and the pictures you take on your phone. Then they sell this information. Why do you think apple, google, Amazon wanted to make their own phones despite no prior experience in the mobile industry? User data is valuable information, on top of the marginsthis is how they can make trillions from just 150 to 200 million mobile users. Xiaomi anfHuawei don’t need to farm data to make money when they have a market with over 3 times the population of the US.
Xiaomi updated the browser today giving the option to opt out of incognito tracking.
What’s the difference?
But isn’t that a modified Firefox version with some apps preloaded?
U have no idea,
In India the 2nd most selling power banks are fake mi power banks
In countries like India Xiaomi fakes are everywhere
Do u actually think it’s not possible to reseal box? 😂😂
The difference is that google does collect your data but they use it to serve you ads (which isn’t okay ) and google will fight tooth and nail to protect your data so that only they can access it. Whereas god knows what xiaomi is doing with your data and with it being a Chinese company that just makes it a lot more unsettling
Even lineage OS isn’t safe an attacker got access. https://status.lineageos.org/
Google keeping tabs on private data?
They do collect a lot which are on the verge of absolute privacy violation, but i don’t think they would collect incognito information, because whatever they can make out of that information isn’t worth the backlash and legal formalities they get tied to if it were ever found.
I think its the same for Mi. The incognito stuff is most likely an oversight on their part, they should accept it, fix it and move on.
No, chrome doesn’t keep a record of search queries you make through incognito mode.
Mi browser does
This is most likely a mistake, maybe left over code for debugging or something.
Xiaomi should accept the mistake, fix it and move on.
youre deluded if you think they will say anything lol
Why would anyone use Xiaomi Mint Browser anyways?
Because its another sensationalist article about a trending topic. In the end of the day if you don’t want your data to be gathered – you don’t use internet, everything else is half-measures.
well duh ! of course they do.
they have always spied on users since day one.
but look at the goodwill they get from the chinese government !!
>There’s a reason Xiaomi locks your phone from being unlocked for an extended period of time or the fact that they dish out false warnings when you finally do unlock it
lol it’s there to stop shops from installing modded froms, it’s why emui completely stoped unlocking,
Even if it meant “not saved to your browser profile”, it still doesn’t give them a reason to make those requests.
That makes me feel saver. Better than everything going to US spy agencies. At least if it goes to China it’s further away.
As a person who uses xiaomi phones for 2 years i have to say that even though every company collects personal data, there is an important difference like apple and google are us companies and xiaomi is a chinese one. Regulations that these companies should obey are really different. I’d personally prefer an us company collects my data rather than a chinese company.
The video clearly shows that (private) data is being sent to Xiaomi though, doesn’t it?
If you’re using miui you deserve to be spied on.
Unlock your phone put in an aosp or any other open source rom.
Also people saying everyone does it so it’s okay. Yeah no. They don’t.
There’s a reason Xiaomi locks your phone from being unlocked for an extended period of time or the fact that they dish out false warnings when you finally do unlock it.
Never use miui folks and if you do use xiaomi.eu.
The fact that even using the calculator makes you have to agree to terms and conditions should tell you how shady miui is.
Have you used a sniffer on the feedback app?
Chinese data collection is bad because they can be resold to any company in the world including western ones. It cannot be assumed that data collected by “sensors analytics”/Baidu will just keep it to themselves.
Google location tracking can be avoided by turning it off in the settings, and further reduced/eliminated by turning off web-app activity.
https://sea.pcmag.com/gps-mapping/15187/how-to-get-google-to-quit-tracking-you
What Xiaomi did is way worse than google/chrome browser. It sent a running log of browsing URLs to baidu. And thats not touching on the other issues as well – recording folders accessed etc.
Edit – looks like you made up your mind already and trying to evade from the issue of Xiaomi sending browsing urls to its servers by talking about ad tracking, so its pointless continuing the conversation.
Aside from the original issue that was being discussed, Google has to abide by privacy laws like GDPR and is now under investigation whether its current practices of web tracking are legal. China on the other hand has very weak privacy laws by comparison.
Holy lord. I was actually considering the MI Pro 10 too. No thanks.
At the end of the day myself and a majority of the world would rather put our data with U.S companies rather than Chinese who don’t have a legitimate court system to fight in if there were wrong doings.
Don’t forget that Xiaomi is a Chinese company and they work for China and will report everything to the Chinese government.
They use Google products as default out of the box.
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That does not justify the practice at all.
I’m very sure that MIUI itself sends all data, whether you are the default or another browser.
Also, why not use an alternative that doesnt sell your data?
Firefox for example…
Except this video clearly shows the same uuid being used across normal and incognito browsing.
If they are seeing what we search on Internet, let’s spam with ANTI CCP AND HUMANS RIGHTS information 🥳
lol neither Apple or (i think) Google collects incognito browser data.
You should see what google does.
Well for starters they have over a million muslims in concentration camps, harvest organs from prisoners, and is currently saying the coronavirus started in the U.S.
> tinfoil hat people living in their moms basement.
Exactly like the guy in this video.
I know there probably are quite some folks in here with Chinese IP, ‘whataboutism’ doesn’t justify this shit at all.
Tor browser allegedly does not do this
Wait, are there even browsers out there that don’t do this?
Thing here is that every other company does exactly the same, but “Chinese bad” I suppose.
Don’t comment back if you will say “Prove it” look for it yourself. You know is kinda funny because the company everybody should be terrified by is Apple because all their hermetic OS, but as I said every company recollects your data (Google Chrome itself says incognito mode could collect data) Huawei was banned under this excuse by US government but everybody knows they did it as a marketing strategy so as I said (Again) “Chinese bad, US Good”
Just look on XDA and see if anyone has developed a custom rom. All else fails you can always go for Xiaomi.eu
[Wtf video?? Why so many logs???](https://imgur.com/a/upC3xo0)
Hey. Do you have any suggestions for Mi 9t pro? Could see AOSP for it.
How anything you mentioned correlate with our data being gathered by a Chinese company, especially considering we are not China citizens?
I don’t want this conversation to be typical /r/worldnews “China bad US good” conversation, I just want to understand what danger you see with data being gathered by Chinese company vs being gathered by an US one. The points you’ve provided have nothing to do with our data.
> Regulations that these companies should obey are really different.
No, they’re not.
> I’d personally prefer an us company collects my data rather than a chinese company.
Don’t worry, they already do and that just comes off as xenophobic.
Then why is Xiaomi trending worldwide if no one cares loool.
Do you have a Xiaomi phone ?
Just clicked on my default Messenger, Google Messages and it opened in the default browser, Chrome.
basically all old people
Welcome to China.
You can say sensationalist article about a trending topic for anything. The facts are that people care about privacy, transparency and where and who controls our data in which Xiaomi violated. If you don’t mind giving away your data then might as well leave you passwords for all your social media sites for people to see.
So you’d let an authoritarian regime like China have a profile on you rather than American companies?
They definitely do. At least they do make the disclaimer that it doesn’t necessarily make you invisible. It clearly states that on the right when you hit CTRL + SHIFT + N
If you install a new browser, it asks you if you want to set it as a default browser so I’m sure not that many people use Mint.
I’ll believe that when I see it verified extensively, if not it’s a claim that’s entirely too good to be true.
What about for phones like the Mi A3 which use stock Android? I heard that these phones cost a bit more because Xiaomi doesn’t make ad revenue from these phones. Hopefully it also means that it’s more difficult for Xiaomi to take my data?
It’s not anonymous, the data is tied to a unique identifier and that only expires every 90 days.
Xiaomi so far has not proven that they don’t record and send search queries typed in incognito mode.
Also none of this is being listed in their end user agreement and it’s even more violation.
The people who brought this up are not people with tin foil hats, they are security consultants.
Yes they’re gonna add a custom os on your device(obvious /s). Although looking at miui I do t think it gets any worse than that
Every service you use gathers every bit of information about you that they can… I hate it.. but it is a fact. If you use any technology you are tracked.
People who just don’t know or care to change browsers. I know a lot of them.
As I’ve said to another user here, it does and it’s not looking good for Xiaomi. What you *can* do is stop using their browser or better yet use a Custom ROM like Lineage to circumvent this issue entirely.
>incognito
That means “not saved to your browser profile”, not “use Tor for this tab”.
Yea but it’s expected from Chinese companies because the CCP censors and collects data from their users. We’ve just found out about this right now but there can be many more tricky ways they can do this.
Fuck Xiaomi. All my homies hate Xiaomi
> and a majority of the world
You overestimate the “majority”. I’d say majority of the world doesn’t give a f about their data being used/stored and they don’t even know that their data is being used, since pressing OK without reading is sadly the norm.
I’m still pissed at the fact they have ADS IN FUCKING MIUI. Why would such a company do such things and ruin its reputation
This is really an act of invasion of privacy. I would really be looking forward to hear what Xiaomi would say about this.
Like all other institutions governments and multinational companies do.
Well, as every company does that, I’d rather let Xiaomi have it than companies like google or apple, periodt.
If u think Xiaomi is the only one spying on what you’re doing, u’re a fool. I’m not saying that it’s not wrong, just that it’s what happens, but since Xiaomi it’s a Chinese company ppl tend to make a fuss about it.