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Asked: Tháng 9 25, 20192019-09-25T22:22:11+00:00 2019-09-25T22:22:11+00:00In: Tips, Tricks & Customization

Xiaomi is generous, Be like Xiaomi.

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This is honestly an awesome move from Xiaomi. Donating 100 Mi Air Purifier 2S to schools that is in Malaysia’s biggest Haze Hotspots.
For context, for the past week, my country has been hit with possibly the worse Haze since 2015 to 2016. Hitting around the average of 170-190 on the API. Thank You, Xiaomi Malaysia for your generous donation to our public schools.

Source: https://www.soyacincau.com/2019/09/25/xiaomi-malaysia-donate-mi-air-purifier-2s/

More context: This is the Deputy Minister of Education for Malaysia post about it. https://www.instagram.com/p/B21cJNVAx41/?igshid=rh7cio0e5m7y

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  1. Voodoomania
    Voodoomania
    2019-09-26T00:27:20+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 12:27 am

    So, 100 classrooms, assuming that every classroom will be used by 150 students trough the day, it can help more than 15000 students. That is a great number of people to help.

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  2. guoyunhe
    guoyunhe
    2019-09-26T02:24:30+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 2:24 am

    good movement

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  3. MissAndRun
    MissAndRun
    2019-09-26T03:27:20+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 3:27 am

    It’s nice and generous of them, but it perfectly fits their plans too. They are expanding to become a world-leader of IoT devices and by spreading their brand and making sure more people keep using these devices it allows them to get broader range of data to the Chinese servers. Since pretty much all Chinese tech companies are backed by the government (including Xiaomi), it’s inevitable that the all this data will be used somehow by them.

    But besides that, it’s a great donation and Xiaomi products are awesome for their price so who cares in the end ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯

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  4. late_50s_why
    late_50s_why
    2019-09-26T04:56:16+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 4:56 am

    Don’t some of the places in China where folks can’t go out without A 3m filter mask

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  5. c0mbatduckzz
    c0mbatduckzz
    2019-09-26T04:58:00+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 4:58 am

    If everyone ends up positive no one loses anything.

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  6. vetealachingada
    vetealachingada
    2019-09-26T04:59:20+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 4:59 am

    del5eted.

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  7. ThermicDude
    ThermicDude
    2019-09-26T05:37:12+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 5:37 am

    I see this as an absolute win!

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  8. ThermicDude
    ThermicDude
    2019-09-26T05:41:51+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 5:41 am

    China must’ve gotten the worse of Air Pollution

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  9. Mekbab
    Mekbab
    2019-09-26T05:59:52+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 5:59 am

    You cant really get personal data from an air purifier.

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  10. MissAndRun
    MissAndRun
    2019-09-26T06:40:02+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 6:40 am

    It’s purely a start, I can use myself as an example. Once you use Xiaomi products you easily fall in love with them especially for the price. Since they have such a wide range of products you’ll get the urge to buy more stuff from them until you are in their ecosystem.

    This is fine and all since you like using their products, but the fact still remains that communist China that is heavily censoring and violating human rights basically owns this company. Even if people condemn how they treat peoples privacy, who can possibly stop them if they become a global leader in technology.

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  11. LjLies
    LjLies
    2019-09-26T06:41:22+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 6:41 am

    No, you can’t “just install” it, first you need to obtain their permission in the form of a bootloader unlock code — which in their home country, they will very rarely grant.

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  12. vetealachingada
    vetealachingada
    2019-09-26T06:42:20+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 6:42 am

    Oh yeah, probably not possible in china, but totally possible in every other country

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  13. ThermicDude
    ThermicDude
    2019-09-26T06:42:55+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 6:42 am

    On Global ROM for MIUI opening the bootloader is easier.

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  14. cosmicdan808
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    2019-09-26T06:56:52+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 6:56 am

    You know there’s laws to prevent companies doing that kind of thing, right? Why would a company risk everything by literally spying on random customers? This isn’t data analytics and is not a cost effective way of gaining market intelligence, even if it was legal. Don’t let paranoia overtake basic logic.

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  15. cosmicdan808
    cosmicdan808
    2019-09-26T06:57:47+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 6:57 am

    So basically you’re arguing that we need to boycott the product because China. Righty-o.

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  16. cosmicdan808
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    2019-09-26T06:59:47+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 6:59 am

    Mongolia is the worst in the world I heard but that’s right near China, whole SEA is newly industrialised so it’s like London in the early 1900’s all over again for many places.

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  17. curiocritters
    curiocritters
    2019-09-26T07:09:23+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 7:09 am

    What a brilliant initiative!

    Kudos, Xiaomi!

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  18. sheemon
    sheemon
    2019-09-26T07:37:29+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 7:37 am

    After 4 decades of system development please allow me the following comments:
    1. When you install a “Custom ROM” you are replacing the R/W third (fourth?) stage code, not the embedded ROM. There, all you need is less than 1 megabyte to store a whole O/S. What it does, you do not know.
    2. If the code is not 100% Open Source, and if you did not compile it yourself, then a backdoor may exist.
    3. Even after long retirement, I do not allow any of my data to pass through hostile hands. So are many, many others. This is the biggest impediment to Chinese brands growth. Read Huawie, Chinese Drones, etc.
    4. Even if you encrypt, your traffic can be broken in minutes. On Pentium Pro 200, the break time for pgp-1024 was 21 minutes. My Loco Poco phone is 28,000 times faster or more, per core. Linear extrapolation puts it at milliseconds – “realtime cracking?”
    I hope this helps.

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  19. ccianciu
    ccianciu
    2019-09-26T07:39:53+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 7:39 am

    Vibration on tap not working on Mi9 Global version. MIUI version 10.2.30 stable.

    I checked on my Mi8 and it works (different MIUI versions).

    Is this a software bug ?

    Or do I need to return my Mi9?

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  20. ccianciu
    ccianciu
    2019-09-26T07:40:28+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 7:40 am

    Vibrate on tap

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  21. MissAndRun
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    2019-09-26T08:01:34+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 8:01 am

    I’m not saying we should boycott them and I admit that I myself am a big fan of their product line ups.

    It’s just that I don’t believe it’s a genuinely “good” company that generously helps people based purely on good will and people shouldn’t really just praise them without knowing their background, but then again that’s just my opinion.

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  22. cosmicdan808
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    2019-09-26T08:12:40+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 8:12 am

    Well your argument isn’t groundless – they won’t even try to penetrate the US market for example, which is suspicious enough.

    I mostly wanted to point out the hyperbole in your point of view. Yes, they do collect anonymous data and telemetry – and yes they are a company that operates in China and yes the board are all members of the Communist party, as is pretty much required by their laws over there. But you’ve got a lot of Eurocentric bias in there, it’s a whole different world based on non-abrahamaic law and society – not some Orwellian nightmare that the west might make them out to be.

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  23. LFoure
    LFoure
    2019-09-26T08:16:09+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 8:16 am

    They could always say it’s for some kind of smart feature, and I don’t think all countries have those kinds of Privacy laws.

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  24. LFoure
    LFoure
    2019-09-26T08:17:06+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 8:17 am

    I got it and I live in China.

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  25. cosmicdan808
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    2019-09-26T08:23:12+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 8:23 am

    If it’s imported from mainland China then yeah, but it’s in their best interests financially to make one global model which is what Hong Kong will get. They’re not gonna parcel up different software for different regions with different privacy settings, they only do China and Global – if they aren’t bothered to do that which is harder to detect and cheaper to do, they’re not going to split up different hardware models with embedded spy technology.

    The danger with Chinese goods is buying non-global hardware that is exclusive to domestic PRC, which is hard to do; but moreso buying from unauthorized resellers which out their own spyware and such in. This is also why they have such tight bootloader unlocking on their phones, btw.

    If these things can only be imported from mainland China and not officially/partnered with any global, then fair enough – tinfoil cap away :p that comes down to how much you personally trust the Chinese economic model, then, though.

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  26. Eqwansyafiq
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    2019-09-26T08:48:24+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 8:48 am

    Normally in Malaysia every classroom will be about 30-40 students. And Xiaomi gave it to the Ministry of Education which i doubt “students” will get that in a class….

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  27. endangered_wifi
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    2019-09-26T09:04:58+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 9:04 am

    But the Malaysia culture is like, someone, the minister/handler/principle/teacher/student will take it home.

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  28. ThermicDude
    ThermicDude
    2019-09-26T09:45:06+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 9:45 am

    Ffs

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  29. ThermicDude
    ThermicDude
    2019-09-26T09:46:47+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 9:46 am

    That is why we use our votes correctly?

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  30. blorg
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    2019-09-26T11:02:29+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 11:02 am

    The haze is SE Asia is primarily from agricultural burning and forest fires often set deliberately for agricultural purposes. It’s not primarily industrial.

    It’s seasonal, China is worse averaged over the year but when it’s bad it gets even worse than China. Right now the burning is in Indonesia but it spreads across Singapore, Malaysia and as far as Thailand.

    March-April it’s burning in Northern Thailand, Myanmar and Laos, and that’s terrible too.

    I have a Xiaomi air purifier, literally could not live here without one during the season.

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  31. blorg
    blorg
    2019-09-26T11:09:15+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 11:09 am

    But it’s fine if Facebook or the NSA do it?

    If you actually lived in China I could get the concern, but if you don’t I don’t know why you’d be more concerned about a Chinese company spying on you than an American company (or spy agency).

    And we KNOW they do it, while all this stuff about Chinese companies is speculative, “they could” rather than “they are”.

    Someone could do a teardown of a purifier to see if there is a microphone in there, look at traffic, people do this. It would be discovered. There would be news about it.

    China is an authoritarian state and I don’t like their internal political system or a lot of what they do. I don’t like a lot of uS foreign policy either for that matter. But this “Chinese company dangerous and bad” stuff is just mindless US propaganda.

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  32. Danacy
    Danacy
    2019-09-26T11:10:49+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 11:10 am

    This is connected to the news article how?

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  33. kumarshailend
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    2019-09-26T11:48:03+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 11:48 am

    That’s really good work done by the #Xiaomi for their incredible task 100 Mi Air Purifier 2S to schools in Malaysia. And I’m very excited to see such type of work in India by Xiaomi.

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  34. Iffabled
    Iffabled
    2019-09-26T13:57:11+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 1:57 pm

    I assume that by “pgp-1024” you mean 1024 bit RSA. **Nobody** uses it anymore – most people have moved a long time ago to 4096 bit RSA, or to ECC.

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  35. ScheduledRelapse
    ScheduledRelapse
    2019-09-26T15:43:13+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 3:43 pm

    Google were guilty of this lol.

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  36. Version467
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    2019-09-26T16:52:30+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 4:52 pm

    Not 150 people per classroom. He meant at any given day, multiple classes go through a classroom. So that adds up to maybe about 150.

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  37. Swifttree
    Swifttree
    2019-09-26T17:15:42+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 5:15 pm

    I’ve been running mine in my house for a year now. Great product from xiaomi

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  38. ThermicDude
    ThermicDude
    2019-09-26T17:36:49+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 5:36 pm

    Going to get one soon.

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  39. Eqwansyafiq
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    2019-09-26T21:29:55+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 9:29 pm

    I get that. But really, still the same. A classroom here used by the same student. We dont switch classroom. Only the teacher change. Unless special class like science labs.

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  40. melperz
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    2019-09-26T21:30:03+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 9:30 pm

    As good as the intention may be, it’s also a very good business strategy since each students will go home and may talk about that product to their family, which is a lot better advertisement since they convey actual experience with the product rather than just putting up an ad on some subway ad space.

    This would also mean that after a few months or so, it’s going to need maintenance meaning they will buy the needed filters for that much units, on a regular basis.

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  41. Version467
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    2019-09-26T21:50:37+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 9:50 pm

    Huh, interesting. Does that mean you share every class with the same students? What about electives?

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  42. Swifttree
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    2019-09-26T21:52:27+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 9:52 pm

    I’d recommend it for sure. Filter needs to be changed every few months, but it’s not an issue when air quality is bad

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  43. LjLies
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    2019-09-26T22:26:35+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 26, 2019 at 10:26 pm

    I’m probably not where the other user is, but it works the same here, and “electives” simply don’t exist as such. You choose a type of high school (there are quite a few) which hopefully focuses on subjects you’re interested in, and then you share the same classmates for 5 years (unless you fail a year and have to repeat it).

    Something like “electives” may still exist in the form of afternoon activities or such but they don’t really contribute to your marks.

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  44. Eqwansyafiq
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    2019-09-27T16:13:58+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 27, 2019 at 4:13 pm

    Yes. We dont have much electives. If you chose that electives, means youre stuck with them for the whole year.

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  45. cosmicdan808
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    2019-09-28T09:39:58+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 28, 2019 at 9:39 am

    Well technically that’s agricultural industry (palm oil deforestation and refineries and the like) but sure I get what you mean – it’s not all smoke stacks and power plants. I mean all that stuff still falls under “industrialization” in the broad sense but thanks for the added detail.

    I am Australian, so I am lucky, but I’m aware of the Terrie situation… I had an ex who boycott palm oil because of how badly it’s taken over the economy and environment in some countries, learned all about it then. Had no idea how many things out there had palm oil :\

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  46. Mekbab
    Mekbab
    2019-09-28T21:42:42+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 28, 2019 at 9:42 pm

    These purifiers are going to schools, not people, so a school wont get more products because they fall in love.

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  47. sheemon
    sheemon
    2019-09-30T01:42:58+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 30, 2019 at 1:42 am

    Ok, so the key is 4 times the length. The computation technology is at least 28,000 faster. Your point is?
    Security By Obscurity increases friction but does not block movement.

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    2019-09-30T13:10:02+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 30, 2019 at 1:10 pm

    You clearly don’t understand encryption nor what security by obscurity means. Breaking PGP encrypted message is not something anybody can do – only some big institutions have such computing power. Also, the term security by obscurity does not refer to encryption.

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  49. sheemon
    sheemon
    2019-09-30T16:36:01+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 30, 2019 at 4:36 pm

    Oh, now you preach to me. Good!
    By your admission, only “big” organizations can do it.
    I AGREE!
    And how do you think the big sucking sound you hear (of proprietary and secret data making its way to China, North Korea and other enlightened bastions of freedom and morality) is created? By individuals running Java programs on their telephones?
    No, my young, so knowledgeable friend. The enemy had more money, more power, and more will to harm than you know exists.
    As to not knowing this or that, how do You know what I know? Please do not be silly, and contain your comments to what YOU know, not what you heard. Let alone what you did not hear (for example, my education, my work history, my accomplishments).
    Please do not try to extract braggings from me. It is impolite [to brag].
    I already regret having started this annoying thread.
    Be good, be well…

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