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Asked: Tháng 9 9, 20192019-09-09T09:53:21+00:00 2019-09-09T09:53:21+00:00In: Tips, Tricks & Customization

Why Xiaomi phones are so cheap?

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Hi! I have been looking at all kind of budget phones these last weeks, and the Xiaomi phones are the ones that have been catching my eye. They have all kind of specifications, all those features, and that is worrying me sometimes, because for the price that Xiaomi is being sold, you get a very good phone with good specifications. Is it worth to buy a Xiaomi budget phone, those that range between 150€ to 200€, or I should get a more known brand smartphone, like Samsung, but with lower specifications?

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  1. Rud2K
    Rud2K
    2019-09-09T10:07:48+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 10:07 am

    Xiaomi is generally cheaper because they make most of their profits from ads which is why miui is littered with them. On top of that xiaomi’s (and partner companies) business motto is to make good quality products for cheap in order to generate returning customers.

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  2. Brillem
    Brillem
    2019-09-09T10:08:31+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 10:08 am

    You really don’t have to worry, Xiaomi’s quality is really good, your best choice at that price would probably be the Redmi Note 7.

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  3. quaivatvutru
    quaivatvutru
    2019-09-09T10:09:47+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 10:09 am

    all the ads in MIUI can be turned off quite easily.

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  4. Rud2K
    Rud2K
    2019-09-09T10:12:11+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 10:12 am

    But they are there right? You’re not paying for the ads the company is.

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  5. Loumier
    Loumier
    2019-09-09T10:27:11+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 10:27 am

    Xiaomi’s production line is based in China as many other hardware manufacturers are, making it cheaper to build. Also, besides their competitors, Xiaomi’s main source of profit doesn’t come from the sold hardware itself. Xiaomi is an internet services company, not a hardware company like Apple and Samsung are. They make profit from the ads inserted on MIUI. In fact that’s one of the reasons why Xiaomi provides their Android custom skin for smartphones made by other brands. My first contact with MIUI was when I flashed it on my old Galaxy S3.
    Xiaomi also makes some profit selling internet services. Since they don’t have much heavy weight competition like the Google Suite (because it was banned by the Chinese government).

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  6. VETOFALLEN
    VETOFALLEN
    2019-09-09T10:32:45+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 10:32 am

    I don’t believe ads are a major source of their income. There are only ads if your region is China or India, and while even so, the amount of ads are minimal (in my experience) and is only in specific Mi apps.

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  7. omegastuff
    omegastuff
    2019-09-09T10:41:27+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 10:41 am

    Their main source of income is the services they sell. I think they have a big market for that in China and India. Eslewere, I would say they don’t, but that’s why they sell their phones very cheap.

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  8. CivilLynx
    CivilLynx
    2019-09-09T10:42:13+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 10:42 am

    You have to remember that a large portion of phone costs goes to marketing. They spend loads of money just to sell phones. Xiaomi barely does that so they can keep costs lower.

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  9. Katsssss
    Katsssss
    2019-09-09T10:55:42+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 10:55 am

    They sell a large quantity of their products online, removing the need for the physical store costs.

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  10. Daedalus_304
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    2019-09-09T11:09:59+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 11:09 am

    There is actually a physical Xiaomi store here in NZ now

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  11. Katsssss
    Katsssss
    2019-09-09T11:12:34+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 11:12 am

    Yo actually?

    I heard it was in the makings but wasn’t sure if it was true.

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  12. Daedalus_304
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    2019-09-09T11:14:20+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 11:14 am

    Yeah it’s in Auckland, pretty sure pbtech runs it but it’s a dedicated Xiaomi store

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  13. Ven0m131
    Ven0m131
    2019-09-09T11:15:34+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 11:15 am

    Also they cap their profit at 5%

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  14. Internet-Troll
    Internet-Troll
    2019-09-09T11:39:01+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 11:39 am

    They sell it at cost and make money through accessories

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  15. jotunck
    jotunck
    2019-09-09T11:41:38+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 11:41 am

    Don’t fully trust GSMArena, their details are sometimes wrong, especially regarding upcoming or new releases.

    Anyway, I would recommend googling to check if there is a GCam APK that works with the model you’re looking at (there generally is, but check just to be sure). I wouldn’t buy a Xiaomi phone unless it works with GCam.

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  16. HenrysLife
    HenrysLife
    2019-09-09T11:43:03+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 11:43 am

    You might want to keep an eye out when you purchase a Xiaomi Phone. I received a defective unit as it was bent on arrival. I sent it to the manufacturer to get it fixed and I’ve been waiting 2 weeks for it to come back. They may be good for the price but quality might be questionable in my opinion.

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  17. Maiky38
    Maiky38
    2019-09-09T11:49:39+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 11:49 am

    It’s not that they are cheap, it’s the fact that the others have been overpricing for years because there was very little competition, now that they have been exposed we have more options at way better prices.

    Redmi Note 7 for sure as long as it has all the band’s you need. Price to performance king in the midrange category. Ebay has them for less than 200$.

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  18. thesereneknight
    thesereneknight
    2019-09-09T11:58:23+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 11:58 am

    5% profit margin.
    Also, they used to be online-only. Now they have opened physical stores. I haven’t found any difference apart from reselling value.
    If you are in China or India, just like Samsung you won’t have a hard time with after-sales services. Not sure about other countries.
    IMO get Xiaomi, exchange it when you buy a new one.

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  19. FnnKnn
    FnnKnn
    2019-09-09T11:59:16+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 11:59 am

    There are also adds in other regions, but you can always turn them off.

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  20. ondrejeder
    ondrejeder
    2019-09-09T12:02:22+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 12:02 pm

    Their product are cheap because (as said few times by CEO) their strategy is to make products with small profit margins (like 5-10%) and they hope this convince you to buy more of theirs products….

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  21. N8DZN
    N8DZN
    2019-09-09T12:13:05+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 12:13 pm

    THEY ARE CHEAP BECAUSE THEY DON’T ADVERTISE THEIR PHONE THEY LET THIRD PARTY SELLER DO THAT

    MOST OF THEIR ADVERTISING ARE ON THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA

    THAT ALL I KNOW 😜

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  22. ezkailez
    ezkailez
    2019-09-09T12:21:36+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 12:21 pm

    There’s a few factors:

    1. Most xiaomi research and production are in china which makes it cheaper

    2. Xiaomi is a service company (like google, unlike apple) which means they can cap their profit at 5%, and will mostly get revenue thru non intrusive ads.

    3. Almost no ads, which means that the device they sold doesn’t need to be adjusted to cover the cost of advertising it

    4. Some of their product are ~~copying~~ “inspired” by other brands design. Designing a product can be expensive. See mi8 and iPhone X for example

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  23. metsakutsa
    metsakutsa
    2019-09-09T12:23:10+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 12:23 pm

    The main key to decreasing Xiaomi expenses is that they don’t have many staffed physical stores, as much as I am aware.

    That makes it possible to just ask the price of the hardware with a small profit coefficient.

    As opposed to the practices of other companies, where they slap on a picture of a specific fruit on your hardware and ask roughly 10 times their intrinsic value.

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  24. Scared_Professional
    Scared_Professional
    2019-09-09T12:24:50+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 12:24 pm

    Xiaomi Phones are cheap because they se them at only upto 5% profit margin.
    They are usually sold at manufacturing cost only!!!

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  25. minilandl
    minilandl
    2019-09-09T12:26:42+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 12:26 pm

    Or just flash a custom ROM like lineage os like I do

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  26. Rohan279
    Rohan279
    2019-09-09T12:28:40+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 12:28 pm

    Xiaomi phones are not cheap, other phones are overpriced and too expensive!

    If you want you can read about manufacturing costs of those $1000 dollar flagships, comes to around only $400.

    That’s a profit margin of around 60%, Xiaomi’s profit margins are only 5% that’s why genuinely priced products.

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  27. odeiraoloap
    odeiraoloap
    2019-09-09T12:34:20+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 12:34 pm

    Here in the Philippines at least, Xiaomi engages in basically NO ADVERTISING CAMPAIGNS AT ALL – Samsung and the three BKK brands plaster their phones on every mall, billboard, bus, and video wall they could get hold of.

    But go on Facebook and you see *every single “tech site” writing about Xiaomi multiple times a day -* whether it’s a cheap phone, a flash sale, multiple phone comparisons, and even a new dehumidifier; they thrive on free advertising and word-of-mouth.

    That’s one of the best ways to get publicity and a product made for cheap – let others do the advertising and marketing for you (no expensive contract with an ad agency = significantly less operational costs = less corporate expenses = cheaper phones).

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  28. dpahs
    dpahs
    2019-09-09T12:42:35+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 12:42 pm

    The biggest issue with Xiaomi/Redmi phones are their supported LTE bands.

    Make sure the phone you intend to purchase supports all the bands your carrier uses.

    This is especially the case in North America

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  29. Galahad_Lancelot
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    2019-09-09T12:50:24+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 12:50 pm

    xiaomi is seen as a legit and premiere brand in Asia. so many fking Koreans come here to buy xiaomi shit. xiaomi vaccum, phone, computer, massager, humidifier, etc.

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  30. manielos
    manielos
    2019-09-09T12:54:53+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 12:54 pm

    there was YT video i cannot find now explaining this, basically Chinese manufacturers like Xiaomi get lower quality parts like SOCs, RAM and storage chips at lower price, those are fully functional parts, not worse per se, but in manufacturing process they’re rated basing on quality, better quality components are less likely to fail in the future

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  31. Darkmesah
    Darkmesah
    2019-09-09T13:01:17+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 1:01 pm

    Redmi Note 7 user as well here, no problems with video calls or camera, phone is amazing.

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  32. RehabMan
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    2019-09-09T13:12:15+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    Economies of scale, Xiaomi bulk buys parts and then produces hundreds of models which are just variations on the same parts… There was a 645 meme a while ago because it seemed like every Xiaomi phone had a Snapdragon 645 inside, but it’s a business model that works.

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  33. kapellomg
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    2019-09-09T13:15:06+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 1:15 pm

    Just beware Samsung uses low end specs for their cheaper phones, even their A70, which was their most expensive budget phone last time I checked, uses corning gorilla glass 3, this is not only old but also lackluster, xiaomi uses corning gorilla glass 5 on all their phones and 6 on some more expensive models. They are using the best specs they can get for the price because there’s no financial incentive by cheaping out. Watch out with cheaper Samsung phones, some of them are really shitty. Sometimes if you removed the name, it would be a shitty Chinese phone by all standards. Same goes for other brands btw, avoid Huawei too. I’d say get a xiaomi model that suits your tastes and enjoy it for years to come, with frequent updates 🙂

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  34. imprctcljkr
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    2019-09-09T13:18:56+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 1:18 pm

    Aside from the fiasco with Google, why avoid Huawei?

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  35. kapellomg
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    2019-09-09T13:25:09+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 1:25 pm

    They work a lot with the Chinese government (that’s how they’re able to market so aggresively) and their phones are often inferior from a quality perspective to a similarly priced xiaomi

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  36. imprctcljkr
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    2019-09-09T13:26:23+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 1:26 pm

    I’m aware of their involvement with the Chinese government. What I don’t know is that Xiaomi is still beating them in quality.

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  37. SagarSangle
    SagarSangle
    2019-09-09T13:26:24+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 1:26 pm

    Hey I am using mi A1 since 2 year till today I not facing any problem with phone,I think xioami phone are worth penny I spend on phone

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  38. pradthe
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    2019-09-09T13:28:05+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 1:28 pm

    I saw something about Xiaomi having a 5% profit margin on the phones.

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  39. kapellomg
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    2019-09-09T13:29:40+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 1:29 pm

    Try comparing phones on kimovil, look at antutu scores for a starter and compare the other specs, I’d say it’s pretty self evident

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  40. garrett53
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    2019-09-09T13:32:46+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 1:32 pm

    They don’t advertise, make quite low profit (they make a ton of other stuff, so they have plenty of proft), they don’t store phones, they pretty much make them on demand.

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  41. ISmellLikeBlackTea
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    2019-09-09T13:34:22+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 1:34 pm

    Wait for the Redmi note 8 pro. Trust me it’s worth the wait to buy it at 210/220 euro price. The phone will blow you away.

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  42. Weak_Nuclear_Force
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    2019-09-09T13:35:12+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 1:35 pm

    I totally agree with you regarding the overpriced phones from other manufacturers but you forgot about the costs of advertising the phones. They can get as high as the production costs itself.
    Xiaomi barley advertises their phones so they can save a bunch of money.

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  43. Wedith
    Wedith
    2019-09-09T13:39:11+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 1:39 pm

    Xiaomi is the software build company so there are higher specification phone make there are don’t care cost but Xiaomi product is best product

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  44. kapellomg
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    2019-09-09T13:40:30+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 1:40 pm

    and realistically they’re making 1-2%. Of course, this is excluding a surcharge that resellers put on it, but that’s true for just about all phones

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  45. kapellomg
    kapellomg
    2019-09-09T13:42:48+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 1:42 pm

    what, like, at all? They’re making tons of profit. Just not on their phones. Here’s a quote from their wikipedia Revenue; CN¥174.915 billion (2018) Net income; CN¥13.478 billion (2018)

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  46. kapellomg
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    2019-09-09T13:47:42+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 1:47 pm

    I’m pretty sure this is not the case for Xiaomi, they’re using basically the newest hardware but save costs by buying in scale, they’re using the same chipset on a lot of different phones and same goes for other parts (screens, ram, etc) they get the discount from such large quantities and also sell phones for longer than other phones on the market, this may play a small role but this certainly isn’t their business strategy, other cheaper phones (no brand/unknown brand) do that because they need to cut corners in order to compete at the budget market. Xiaomi couldn’t afford to lose this in quality control as this is very important in maintaining consumer relations, correct me if I’m wrong tho

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  47. kapellomg
    kapellomg
    2019-09-09T13:48:18+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 1:48 pm

    no more than\*, realistically it’s 1-2% per phone sold

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  48. rulzlolchanXD
    rulzlolchanXD
    2019-09-09T13:58:52+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 1:58 pm

    Because they know how big turd you took in the morning, lack of stereo speakers, lack of Widevone l1, stealing technology, etc etc..

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  49. manielos
    manielos
    2019-09-09T14:05:57+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 2:05 pm

    yeah, they use the same components, but they’re lower rated, when chips are made in the factory there are some flaws in them, for example higher quality ones are more stable with lower voltages, have tighter tolerances, cheaper ones are more unstable or for example what was planned as 64GB eMMC has only 32GBs usable because of a flaw, of course it’s the same chip on paper, but they have lower rating, thus those are cheaper

    also i think all OEMs buy chips in bulk

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  50. kurokagex
    kurokagex
    2019-09-09T14:08:09+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 2:08 pm

    and it gets better with gcam don forget it xD

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  51. dasautomobil
    dasautomobil
    2019-09-09T14:10:40+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 2:10 pm

    Yeah, the amount invested into ads is insane. I mean, they are not simply paying for ad space, but they need to do research, figure out slogans and how they want to portray and show off their product. What does their demographic want and who exactly is their demographic? All these things are expensive to find Out. Then where do you want to put your ads up? New york time square? Pay big names for using your phone? Maybe let your phone be used in a movie? Just look at Apples and Samsungs ads. They are very well done and researched. Xiaomi doesn’t have ads of that caliber.

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  52. mirsella
    mirsella
    2019-09-09T14:57:31+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 2:57 pm

    go for it. Xiaomi phone are well build (some times more than other well know brand lol) etc. only down side is if you don’t love the OS (you can change it anyway) but personally I love MIUI.

    Xiaomi makes less profit than its competitors because it makes less margin between the price to build a phone and the price at which it is sold, xiaomi have committed not to make more than 5% margin. example: a xiaomi phone built for 300€ will not be sold much more expensive. (I don’t want to put value on it because I don’t want to say anything stupid)
    while competitors like Samsung and apple, (and others) they make much larger margins, which are reflected in corporate revenues, or in proportion to the number of products sold xiaomi should have much higher revenues. for example an iphone XS sold at 1200€ is only built for 400€. sold 300% more expensive, while Xiaomi only 5%.

    Translated with http://www.DeepL.com/Translator

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  53. theDaveXplayerOne
    theDaveXplayerOne
    2019-09-09T15:08:37+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 3:08 pm

    Yeah I’m also kinda getting tired of the notch but that’s just little bullshit.

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  54. VT07
    VT07
    2019-09-09T15:10:26+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 3:10 pm

    Its fact that xiaomi has the least profit per phone when compare to other brands

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  55. Flegmo
    Flegmo
    2019-09-09T15:11:51+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 3:11 pm

    Yeah this is true but it only applies on hardware. They make money from their apps and ads in os so they make more than 5%. No company would be satisfied with 5% profit it’s just a different business model.

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  56. BorisSiomin
    BorisSiomin
    2019-09-09T15:12:02+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 3:12 pm

    I have no Xiaomi Phone but I have Xiaomi earbud and I am satisfied with his build quality. Long live Xiaomi

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  57. guoyunhe
    guoyunhe
    2019-09-09T15:12:05+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 3:12 pm

    Xiaomi doesnt spend billions on marketing, so they can reduce some costs. And their lower end phones will use speaker, camera, screen parts from cheaper suppliers. They do a lot of software work to make lower end parts work as good as mid end parts, especially camera. But good enough for many users. And Xiaomi gets most profits from its MIUI marketplace and in system ads. So their phones are cheap.

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  58. CraigZheng
    CraigZheng
    2019-09-09T15:12:14+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 3:12 pm

    Not sure if that’s a complain or compliment.

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  59. milkymist00
    milkymist00
    2019-09-09T15:25:38+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 3:25 pm

    They are making profits but mainly through software and internet services. And they are not selling their phones for loss, but very low profit margin.

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  60. evilinheaven
    evilinheaven
    2019-09-09T15:25:55+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 3:25 pm

    Oh, do you get their connected toilet them?
    How is the auto order of toilet paper going?

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  61. milkymist00
    milkymist00
    2019-09-09T15:28:24+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 3:28 pm

    625*

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  62. Feniksrises
    Feniksrises
    2019-09-09T15:32:20+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 3:32 pm

    True. And Xiaomi is not the only Chinese brand that makes cheap phones.

    The problem is that in the West most people only know Samsung and Apple. Marketing works.

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  63. Hailgod
    Hailgod
    2019-09-09T15:36:33+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 3:36 pm

    they have much lower margins and earn their money via internet services and ads instead.

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  64. Liron12345
    Liron12345
    2019-09-09T15:46:33+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 3:46 pm

    Because they use a different strategy than the big manufacturers which is more selling for cheap than selling less for expensive. they also make profits using their software. (Services & ads)

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  65. AdamkiewiczArtery
    AdamkiewiczArtery
    2019-09-09T15:51:46+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 3:51 pm

    Xiaomi is cheap because if does not spend much in tangible advertisement. It maximizes on online advertising and yeah, it also profits in ads present in the Xiaomi MIUI.

    Moreover, it dies not invest much in physical stores, that’s why you’ll notice that Xiaomi does most of its selling thru online stores.

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  66. AdamkiewiczArtery
    AdamkiewiczArtery
    2019-09-09T15:54:02+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 3:54 pm

    Apir! You won’t hear Xiaomi much in malls (out of 10 phone outlets, only 2-3 have Xiaomi phones), but online, it has a very strong presence.

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  67. ouhti
    ouhti
    2019-09-09T15:55:36+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 3:55 pm

    I have a redmi note 5 and I’ve installed pixel experience on it
    It works without any problem and the battery life is still excellent even after one and half year of heavy usage

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  68. Benur197
    Benur197
    2019-09-09T15:57:06+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 3:57 pm

    Gotta say that worked for me

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  69. RUMD1
    RUMD1
    2019-09-09T16:00:28+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 4:00 pm

    I thought someone was going to say: because they collect and sell all your info (normally it’s what people say ahaha)

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  70. johnny_51N5
    johnny_51N5
    2019-09-09T16:03:55+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 4:03 pm

    FYI Profit margin is 60% in your example 😉

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  71. Rohan279
    Rohan279
    2019-09-09T16:08:05+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 4:08 pm

    My bad, thanks for correction 🙂

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  72. Bauru18
    Bauru18
    2019-09-09T16:09:32+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 4:09 pm

    Samsung has a lot of small features that I love, and I won’t change until other manufacturers start making these features mainstream

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  73. YunChieh20150123
    YunChieh20150123
    2019-09-09T16:12:10+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 4:12 pm

    I had Mi 9T, Xiaomi is the best Android phone.

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  74. angcrack
    angcrack
    2019-09-09T16:12:44+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 4:12 pm

    The only good thing about Huawei phones is the camera, everything else is just bad. Locked bootloaders that cannot be unlocked, Kirin processors that are incompatible or have bugs with some apps, their Kirin processors are also inferior to snapdragon equivalents ([don’t trust their benchmark numbers as they were caught cheating on them](https://www.anandtech.com/show/13318/huawei-benchmark-cheating-headache)) and the most important one in my opinion: EMUI has to be the single worst android skin from any big manufacturer and since the bootloader is not unlockable, you are stuck with it forever.

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  75. Kalmer1
    Kalmer1
    2019-09-09T16:15:19+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 4:15 pm

    ads in os? I’ve never had any, are they limited to certain roms?

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  76. duki92
    duki92
    2019-09-09T16:51:56+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 4:51 pm

    Same thing, everyone complains ab ads and I’ve never seen one haha

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  77. Flegmo
    Flegmo
    2019-09-09T16:57:04+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 4:57 pm

    They are mostly in xiaomi aps like security and cleaner so if you don’t use them you won’t see them. Chinese and global ROMs have ads. I think that only one without ads is EU ROM but I might be mistaken.

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  78. kirkdragon
    kirkdragon
    2019-09-09T16:59:45+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 4:59 pm

    They have advertisments throughout their base applications (settings, wallpaper,etc). They get ad revenue from these companies, allowing them to not charge their customers as much.

    You can turn off these ads, for the most part. I use different applications too.

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  79. FirnenY
    FirnenY
    2019-09-09T17:01:43+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 5:01 pm

    To be honest, I’m affraid that’s just their marketing strategy. Same as OnePlus. They also started with flagship killer phones, insane value phones. €200-€300 for phones with the same specs as the newest Galaxy. But look at their phones and the prices now, they are steadily climbing to the same margins as the big players.

    I would say, take advantage of it while you can. Get a Xiaomi on the cheap and enjoy a sick phone on the cheap for the next 2-3 years.

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  80. Sharkymoto
    Sharkymoto
    2019-09-09T17:07:09+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 5:07 pm

    flagships are not really overpriced, nobody has a 60% margin on phones. companies spend a lot of money on development and advertising. xiaomi doesnt run ads in tv, magazines and so on, plus they benefit from the research done by others. qualcomm researches new cpus because they want to deliver for samsung, samsung usually gets to be the first with the new processor, followed by the smaller manufacturers.

    also with a xiaomi, you get less fancy stuff, often ips tft panel insted of amoled, no nfc, no this no that, minor stuff you dont need most of the times.

    xiaomi phones are exceptionally well built, they always were, you get a solid phone with minor drawbacks in fancyness, but you can save a lot of money on stuff youd rarely use anyways.

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  81. d_dymon
    d_dymon
    2019-09-09T17:33:49+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 5:33 pm

    I have a redmi note 5, and the only problem is that it works so well, I can’t find any arguments to buy something newer.

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  82. Djbadj
    Djbadj
    2019-09-09T17:37:26+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 5:37 pm

    You almost can’t go wrong with a Chinese phone these days. Ever since my first smartphone a quite unknown brand that does not exist today all my phones were Chinese. And I am on Mi mix 3 atm which is my 3rd Xiaomi phone. My first was a budget Redmi 4 phone but still performed very well. Apart from the phone a have various Xiaomi products which work great. You might even say I am a fan boy. Anyways don’t even think about it, try them you would not be sorry…

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  83. TechExpert2910
    TechExpert2910
    2019-09-09T17:39:40+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 5:39 pm

    If you live in India, every corner of your phone will be filled with ads

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  84. TechExpert2910
    TechExpert2910
    2019-09-09T17:41:05+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 5:41 pm

    I wouldn’t say it’s as good as an iPhone X, but it’s still amazing!

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  85. TechExpert2910
    TechExpert2910
    2019-09-09T17:43:22+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 5:43 pm

    Can you link a website with manufacturing costs? Worth a read!

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  86. Ghostroud
    Ghostroud
    2019-09-09T17:44:36+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 5:44 pm

    If you really want to compare phones just go to gsmarena.com and compare some phones. You won’t regret it.

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  87. Rohan279
    Rohan279
    2019-09-09T17:48:39+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 5:48 pm

    https://www.bankmycell.com/blog/how-much-do-iphones-cost-to-make

    https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s10-plus-build-cost-961928/

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  88. DziungliuVelnes
    DziungliuVelnes
    2019-09-09T17:49:36+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 5:49 pm

    One thing is profit cap other things are a bit more genius. They are using parts like processor, screen and other stuff which you see on specification same as other manufacturers. Like the Snapdragon process, Samsung screen, Sony cameras and etc. But where they save is microphones quality, plastic quality, speakers, cables and other internal parts about nobody is talking, you won’t see it on specification sheet or on benchmark tests. Also ads on different parts in the system.

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  89. TechExpert2910
    TechExpert2910
    2019-09-09T17:59:02+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 5:59 pm

    Playes games smoother? Loads apps faster? Lol you’re comparing a mid-range chip to a flagship $1000 A11.

    My iPhone 6s (4y old) can easily beat it in performance because of iOS’s optimisation and Apple’s amazing SoC’s. Even the SD 845 could not beat the A11, even though it released a while year later.

    Don’t get me wrong – the Note 7 is amazing for the price and I love it. It’s more than enough for most users but don’t have unrealistic expectations 😅

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  90. Kalyvan
    Kalyvan
    2019-09-09T17:59:24+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 5:59 pm

    Can you show it? I just can’t imagine how anyone would use a phone with ads in launcher e.g.

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  91. Moraghmackay
    Moraghmackay
    2019-09-09T18:09:01+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 6:09 pm

    Cause they don’t sell them with the service providers you see the hauwei, Samsung, OnePlus, iPhone with att or whatever your provider is but not xioami.
    With xioami phones you have to order them online either Gizmo or Amazon or alibaba. So I think that is why, I’m sure there’s a terminology in business that discribes this type.of consumerism but unfortunately I don’t know what it is.

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  92. crookedman99
    crookedman99
    2019-09-09T18:15:53+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 6:15 pm

    their manufacturing is cheap cause they’re already in China and don’t have to pay any additional taxes.

    Also they ship high volumes (low profit margin) to China and India where low to mid range phones are in demand.

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  93. crookedman99
    crookedman99
    2019-09-09T18:16:29+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 6:16 pm

    everywhere except in Europe and US I think

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  94. Staniklaren
    Staniklaren
    2019-09-09T18:36:20+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 6:36 pm

    My old mi 6 with snap 835 and 6gb of ram, crushed iPhone 7 and 7+ in app launching, fingerprint scanner and overall smoothness

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  95. DolphinsAreOk
    DolphinsAreOk
    2019-09-09T18:38:29+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 6:38 pm

    Its not at all though, its extremely misleading. There are so many other costs besides manufactoring. What about research and development?

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  96. bossbozo
    bossbozo
    2019-09-09T18:39:27+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 6:39 pm

    Lots of good answers in the comments, but to help make it clearer, here are all the reasons in list form:

    Xiaomi caps their profit margins at 5% with the aim of making more profit by selling more units (it is better to sell 3 units at 5% each, than 1 unit at 10%)

    They aren’t actually cheap, they seem cheap as other companies over charge for their phones, so much so that other companies can give discounts, xiaomi cannot give discounts

    It’ss a Chinese brand, thus using cheap labour helps makes phones cheaper

    Xiaomi sells direct from factory, thus eliminating the middle man

    They don’tt waste money on marketing, they let the products market themselves by offering high value for money products

    They use phones to get people on the brand, idea is that by owning a phone first, you are more likely to buy a vacuuming robot, an electric scooter, a backpack etc.

    With above in mind, lots of their phones include an IR blaster, so they can be used as remote control for their own products, making you more likely to buy another xiaomi phone, which makes you more likely to buy more xiaomi home appliances, so on and so forth in a cycle

    Their basic phones skimp on less used/less necessary features like wireless charging and NFC, rather than skimp on processing power/other things necessary for performance

    They buy parts in huge bulks to lower cost (for example they have several models that use the snap dragon 625)

    They use their own custom Android skin that runs some minor advertisement (in china)

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  97. YamiGautamFanClub
    YamiGautamFanClub
    2019-09-09T18:42:23+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 6:42 pm

    It’s not that bad. Mostly on Xiaomi Apps. But u have options “receive recemmendation” in every Xiaomi Apps. Disable it and you are good to go.

    I’m using Redmi Note 4 and I’ve disabled it. Just a 5 min work. Never seen any ads again.

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  98. DolphinsAreOk
    DolphinsAreOk
    2019-09-09T18:44:20+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 6:44 pm

    That and of course research and development, shipping, customer service, software etc etc etc.

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  99. YamiGautamFanClub
    YamiGautamFanClub
    2019-09-09T19:06:14+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 7:06 pm

    Yeah but some people complain too much at the same time debating on specs.

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  100. alien2003
    alien2003
    2019-09-09T19:12:00+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 7:12 pm

    Because of builtin spyware

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  101. rshbh0710
    rshbh0710
    2019-09-09T19:38:13+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 7:38 pm

    Ads are only limited to budget smartphones like the Redmi 1-7 and Redmi Note Series. The flagships do not have any sort of ads on their UI.

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  102. rshbh0710
    rshbh0710
    2019-09-09T19:39:03+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 7:39 pm

    Have you even tried an iPhone X? I’m pretty sure not.

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  103. SerbianHustle
    SerbianHustle
    2019-09-09T19:42:47+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 7:42 pm

    Also, they put out so many phones so they depreciate fast.

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  104. Rohan279
    Rohan279
    2019-09-09T19:49:34+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 7:49 pm

    Every company has a R&D department and i think bringing something that is present on a $1000+ flagship (like bezel-less display, fp on display etc) to a sub $400 device requires a lot of R&D too.

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  105. cezzz16
    cezzz16
    2019-09-09T19:53:31+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 7:53 pm

    I even introduce Xiaomi to my colleagues and they are using one now!

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  106. irajputra
    irajputra
    2019-09-09T19:58:14+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 7:58 pm

    Data collection

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  107. TechExpert2910
    TechExpert2910
    2019-09-09T20:06:01+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 8:06 pm

    Thanks!

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  108. dysorientation
    dysorientation
    2019-09-09T20:07:19+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 8:07 pm

    Bite the bullet and have a Xiaomi, friend! I wasn’t sure either, looking at Huawei and cheaper model Samsung phones. I’m so glad I didn’t. my phone rocks, it’s a talking point cause people are all “wow what is that?!” And it performs just as well as the flagship phones. I know people who spent more on phones and it does basically the same thing.

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  109. TechExpert2910
    TechExpert2910
    2019-09-09T20:10:59+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 8:10 pm

    Lol. Are you kidding me? When it comes to iPhones, ram doesn’t matter as much because of optimisation. Heck, my brothers iPhone X with 3 GB of Ram can hold as many apps in ram as my moms OnePlus 6t with 6. I also have an iPad 6th gen. With just 2 GB of ram, I can play PUBG, keep Reddit & Twitter open in slide over and have Amazon Music playing in the background. And none of them close!

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  110. TechExpert2910
    TechExpert2910
    2019-09-09T20:12:44+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 8:12 pm

    Hmm. I don’t know about the 6 because I don’t have one, but the 6s was just miles faster. The 6 was basically using the 5s’s CPU. It was quite under powered. Still though, even my old iPad 2 can browse Reddit decently. I don’t see why the iPhone 6 can’t. Also the 6 is an almost 5yo phone.

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  111. TechExpert2910
    TechExpert2910
    2019-09-09T20:14:11+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 8:14 pm

    Overall smoothness? iOS’s animations and intuitively can’t keep up imo. That’s why even an old iPhone 5s *feels* smooth even though it’s slow.

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  112. TechExpert2910
    TechExpert2910
    2019-09-09T20:16:04+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 8:16 pm

    Ik about the battery. But once again, that tiny battery will last you as much as the Note 7 because of iOS and Apple’s silicon. Also, while the hyped 48 MP camera is cool, megapixels don’t really matter above 12mp. Focal length, post processing, lens quality… there are millions of things.

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  113. iVarun
    iVarun
    2019-09-09T20:21:49+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 8:21 pm

    Add to that retail partner infra setup costs since it relied a lot on Online shopping model.
    The lack of active marketing relative to its peers.
    Riding the price curve of components used.

    All these things start to compound after a while.

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  114. Promotheux
    Promotheux
    2019-09-09T20:45:10+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 8:45 pm

    Xiaomi does take a maximal profit of 5%, innovation has to be reachable for everyone. They do like to sell more for a cheaper price to make everyone happy then they will only sell to ‘rich’ people like big brands does.

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  115. xXDerpyPancakeXx
    xXDerpyPancakeXx
    2019-09-09T20:56:53+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 8:56 pm

    Yeah, iPhone 6s cannot beat a lot of phones especially the Note 7. The girls in my class have an iPhone 6s, though not all of them, and I compared it to some other phones, and it isn’t as great as it was before, though the speed tests they do on YouTube are flawed and aren’t showing the true speed of the phone. Also, the price is much higher than the Note 7’s yet they both offer almost the same performance. But the worst part of it is the battery.

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  116. d10kn
    d10kn
    2019-09-09T20:58:44+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 8:58 pm

    I bought my first Xiaomi like 2 weeks ago, the Mi 9. I was (and still am) extremely pleased by how good the build quality is and how it performs, specially when you compare it to other flagships like the S10 and so. Xiaomi is definitely a top-notch brand, even though I’m still not 100% sure if I wanna keep using Miui or not.

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  117. marcofio
    marcofio
    2019-09-09T20:59:13+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 8:59 pm

    Only in some market or in some app.

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  118. iDislikeSn0w
    iDislikeSn0w
    2019-09-09T21:30:37+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 9:30 pm

    Then how do they make a profit off of the Mi A line? AFAIK those phones are running 100% stock Android right?

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  119. jkdvxlkjejnnnkl
    jkdvxlkjejnnnkl
    2019-09-09T21:53:15+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 9:53 pm

    So you can keep 5-6 GB in 2 GB RAM? That’s amazing!

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  120. jkdvxlkjejnnnkl
    jkdvxlkjejnnnkl
    2019-09-09T21:56:18+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 9:56 pm

    I love mine, only problem is, I dropped it and ever since the vibration motor stopped working. I have had my phone always in silent mode with vibration turned on, so it was quite a bummer. I’ve got somewhat used to having the volume turned on, but I’m thinking about getting a Note 7 or the next iteration.
    It’s still a good phone so I’ll probably keep it for a while.

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  121. fogoticus
    fogoticus
    2019-09-09T22:08:01+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 10:08 pm

    Hi. I’ll write a more robust comment with an answer to your question and with my specific experience.

    >Why are Xiaomi phones so cheap?

    Xiaomi phones are so cheap because of exactly how Xiaomi’s principles function. Xiaomi makes a lot of products and declare themselves a non-profit organization. Because of this reason alone, they always price all of their products to offer the company no less and no more than 5% profits. And they always try to counterbalance the price. If for some reason today a company wanted to buy discounted products from Xiaomi, they’ll balance the situation so that they sell the exact same amount of products afterwards with slightly more price and the same goes if somebody started selling the device with bigger profit margins.

    They practically look at the literal costs of all the pieces/components of that product, they then look at all the costs of the labor and boxing materials, they then look at taxes and after they get a number, they add a 5% margin and start selling the product immediately. You, as a customer, are almost buying a phone for factory prices.

    The quality is also not on par with other companies. It is quite high quality but not so much when you look at other flagships that naturally cost more.

    **My own experience** was pretty harsh with my first Xiaomi device. First of all, the phone was several months behind the chinese ROM. That was a bummer because I was missing out on features.

    Second of all, my phone started to have ghost touch after just 2 weeks of usage. When I got into the 3rd week of usage, the ghost touch became really bad at times. I mean, really bad. I was already on my last straw and I decided to go right ahead and return the device as I found it unacceptable for the device to have such an issue after 3 weeks. I did search online for fixes. Nothing helped. And more than that, a lot of people were experiencing the issues as well… on multiple other models. And it was a bummer because I really enjoyed the device. Oh and the device I’m talking about is the Xiaomi Mi9, which apparently, albeit being the flagship, will get updated later than K20 Pro or Mi9T which is amazing in a bad way.

    I liked the device. I hated the lack of the headphone jack and my god I hated it so much. On my final update on the device I finally got the correct AMOLED colors on the device (up until that point everything was washed out and out of balance, afterwards, the device looked like a Samsung device with flashy colors and amazing contrast). The thing that irked me apart from the ads was the fact that the phone itself got an update stating I got a feature… which I never found even though I went through each and every menu in the phone itself.

    So. Without further ado: Should you buy a Xiaomi device?

    Yes. They are quality devices and even though they lack in some areas, they are nevertheless still amazing experiences to be had. They are cheap, offer a standard and the OS is decent. But they might not get software updates (Xiaomi is dishing out a plethora of phones) and if they do, only the chinese market will get live udpates. EU and US models will get 3-4 months old updates in general.

    If you have the extra buck and you want a truly premium experience however, Samsung is a great company. The UI is super intuitive, it’s an all around great package and the phone itself is very premium. It is worth it as long a you’re not depending on that money that you’ll spend.

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  122. 1elvinn
    1elvinn
    2019-09-09T22:08:09+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 10:08 pm

    same here. but I don’t even see ads in cleaner and security. (disabled recommendation)

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  123. TheHollowedHunter
    TheHollowedHunter
    2019-09-09T22:13:15+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 10:13 pm

    I bought my gf the Mi 9t and she loves it. She had two busted ass iPhone 6s’. I don’t think you’ll be disappointed. MiUI isnt the greatest but it’s manageable

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  124. moralesnery
    moralesnery
    2019-09-09T22:16:29+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 10:16 pm

    **TL;DR: Xiaomi devices are cheap because they gather a lot of information about your behavior inside their ecosystem, and show you ads based on that information. Very nice hardware for the price you pay.**

    \—-

    Xiaomi supossedly has a profit margin cap of 5-10%, they don’t spend in marketing as much as the other big OEMs and they sell mainly on internet without spending on physical infraestructure (but this last thing is changing with their Xiaomi Store concept). This allows them to sell nice phones at a really low prices and still get profits.

    ​

    Their nice phones and devices give you easy access to a big ecosystem with free and paid services (cloud storage, music, an app store, fitness tracking, assistant, video streaming, etc.) and a LOT of hardware (Smart TVs, speakers, cameras, smart lights, bands, clocks, scooters, etc.). One day you buy a phone, then a band, then a speaker, then a TV, and one day you realize that this ecosystem has become a good part of your life. Paid services are becoming the main source of income for a lot of companies, including Apple and Microsoft.

    ​

    Xiaomi uses their ecosystem’s information to show you very **very** targeted ads in their services and apps. They know what you like, dislike, wich websites you like, how much you sleep, at what time you turn off your lights, if you go to the gym, etc. etc. so their ads are often incredibly effective. **By showing ads and selling services, Xiaomi makes far more money than only selling hardware. And this is why their don’t profit that much from their hardware.**

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  125. BlaAndAllThat
    BlaAndAllThat
    2019-09-09T22:29:44+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 10:29 pm

    I have a Redmi note 4. I have been using it for about 3 years and no issues have come up so far. Only problem is Xiaomi has stopped giving MIUI updates.

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  126. ReverentTap
    ReverentTap
    2019-09-09T22:58:02+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 10:58 pm

    I have Mi 6 and ads were present in every Xiaomi app until I disabled them – there are guides all over the net.

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  127. d_dymon
    d_dymon
    2019-09-09T22:58:11+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 10:58 pm

    I installed a custom rom as soon as it allowed me ( after about 30 days)

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  128. d_dymon
    d_dymon
    2019-09-09T22:59:16+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 10:59 pm

    Did you try to replace the vibrator motor?

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  129. goforbg
    goforbg
    2019-09-09T23:21:09+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 11:21 pm

    Techalter has a very good video on this.

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  130. d05581988
    d05581988
    2019-09-09T23:30:33+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 9, 2019 at 11:30 pm

    No they nor I always used Xiaomi phones now I got k20 pro and I like it more then my mate 20x

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  131. jkdvxlkjejnnnkl
    jkdvxlkjejnnnkl
    2019-09-10T00:05:43+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 10, 2019 at 12:05 am

    No, I didn’t want to open it. I imported it from China and I don’t want to send it back for repairs as that’s too uncertain and lengthy for me.

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  132. DhimiG
    DhimiG
    2019-09-10T03:11:35+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 10, 2019 at 3:11 am

    pffft have you tried any custom rom? youll love the mods and speed on your phone

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  133. rjsh1234
    rjsh1234
    2019-09-10T03:56:56+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 10, 2019 at 3:56 am

    Ads are only in the Redmi series…. Afaik

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  134. Flegmo
    Flegmo
    2019-09-10T04:21:01+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 10, 2019 at 4:21 am

    Nope I have mi 9

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  135. FuzzyKnife
    FuzzyKnife
    2019-09-10T18:55:41+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 9 10, 2019 at 6:55 pm

    Got a Mi 9 for 300€. This thing has a SD855. It’s just impossible to find a similar priced phone that has the same specs as the Mi 9. Samsung for example uses WORSE CPUs on their flagship 1000€ phones lol (Exynos CPUs). I can play PUBG max settings at 60 fps thanks to Xiaomi. I love Xiaomi 😁

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  136. Tough_Lead
    Tough_Lead
    2024-01-28T05:14:39+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 1 28, 2024 at 5:14 am

    In EU you dont see them, countries in europe that arent in the EU have a shit ton of adds

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  137. Mean_Environment6657
    Mean_Environment6657
    2024-07-22T19:22:27+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 7 22, 2024 at 7:22 pm

    U can see ads when opening theme store and other built in xiaomi apps like xiaomi app installed xiaomi files etc. 

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