Funny how “I don’t really care” only shows up after dodging the entire technical explanation and still failing to provide a single counterpoint.

Also, let’s get this straight: I never said “lossless zoom”, not once. That was entirely your invention, which you then used to argue against a point no one made. Classic strawman.

What I actually said, and explained in detail, is that in-sensor zoom is not digital zoom, because it avoids interpolation and preserves native sensor data while using the sharpest part of the lens. If that’s too inconvenient to acknowledge, just say so.

Next time, maybe try reading to understand instead of rushing to correct things you clearly didn’t grasp. Until then, I’m still waiting on an argument that holds up. 😂

I see where you’re coming from, but there’s a fundamental misunderstanding here.

When I said “full optical sharpness preserved,” I was referring to the fact that in-sensor zoom (ISZ) reads only from the center portion of the sensor, which typically corresponds to the center of the lens’s image circle — the region that tends to be optically sharpest with the least distortion or aberrations.

You’re right that using the entire lens can offer maximum resolution across the frame. But that doesn’t mean ISZ compromises sharpness like digital zoom does. ISZ avoids interpolation entirely by reading native sensor pixels directly, so it preserves all available detail in the zoomed region, unlike digital zoom, which degrades image quality through upscaling.

So while ISZ isn’t optical zoom in the traditional moving-lens sense, it’s also clearly not digital zoom. It maintains both sensor-level and optical clarity within the cropped region.

Therefore, no, my statement isn’t wrong. And so far, you haven’t actually explained how it is. Now that I’ve clarified that ISZ uses the optically best portion of the lens and avoids all the losses associated with digital zoom, I’d be genuinely interested if you still believe there’s a flaw in that reasoning.

No. It works with 24 mp, but does not with 12. Full sensor revolution is 48 mp

Ah, classic move — when caught in 4K not knowing the difference between digital zoom and ISZ, just pivot the argument to ‘but any phones can do it!’

Yes, professor, *a*nything can crop an image after it’s taken.

But that’s not what ISZ is. It’s **hardware-level sensor readout control**, not ‘taking a full image and cropping it.’

Just like a 2-dollar Casio calculator and a $3000 GPU can both ‘do math’, but somehow… **one is a tiny bit faster and more sophisticated.** 🤔

Appreciate you sticking around to bless us with these groundbreaking insights. I eagerly await your next revelation, like how using a magnifying glass is basically the same as a $10,000 microscope.

Of course I know the difference, I’m just saying that it can be achieved on basically any phone..

It definitely doesn’t have the typical phone camera look. However I come from Lumix FZ18, Canon 550D and Nikon 3500. I definitely find it has that actual camera look, not the image stacked artificial look of phone cameras. It’s entirely a matter of personal preference.
BTW, I’ve used Samsung and Apple flagships for the last 15 years. This is my first Xiaomi phone.

Works with other lenses too btw

wooow such a large difference, obviously both are digitally cropping into the sensor.

As long as there are no moving lenses – it’s digital.

The fact that you say it’s “digital zoom” and talk about copium is diabolical. It’s not a digital zoom but ISZ. Average reddit user that keeps calling people out but doesn’t even know what ISZ is. lmao

23mm uses the full sensor so !Q should be the best.

The rest are cropped

But I love the 35mm abit more

In summary , use the focal length that the scene requires.

I’m seeing some hacks on how to fix highlights on FX8U until they fix them with OTA (stage mode and -0.3EV when there’s a lot of billboards n crap)

But I won’t buy it until I see them fixed in normal mode too.

Neither are without flaws at the moment. But xiaomi’s lack of natural color profile, meh highlights, weak tele1, broken raw, meh video, skintones, etc. yet again make it a miss.

Vivo has the best camera systems at the moment but overall balance is the Find X8 Ultra as it has way better internals than the Vivo and Xiaomi.

no, the phone is garbage. in both photography and being a phone. ximi fans on copium.

35mm. I know its a drop but i shoot predominantly my family and like the 35mm feel to portraits.

Whoa, I didn’t know thanks.
Like in iphone…

Btw, on the iPhone it doesn’t work if you switch from 24mp to 12 for.. no reason :3

1000€ phones got some crazy stuff

28 mm for the main camera.

Not really unnecessary. Some people might have a preferred focal length that they’ll use most of the time, so Xiaomi is giving people the option to choose the default one. But out of the box it comes with what doesn’t have digital zoom, which is 23mm.

Thanks for your feedback. What I found is that 23 mm is 1x, 28 mm is 1.2x and 35 mm is 1.5x.
Basically this is a redundant setting unnecessarily given in the camera settings.

It’s about personal preference since its just a digital zoom at the base level, click in every focal length and choose what you like