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Asked: Tháng 10 5, 20182018-10-05T02:36:15+00:00 2018-10-05T02:36:15+00:00In: Tips, Tricks & Customization

Stop recomending Pocophone to everyone

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Every post someone asking for advice there are bunch of you saying “buy pocophone”.

“I need a small phone, nothing fancy” >”buy poco”

“Good looking phone” > “buy poco”

“Should i get Redmi 6 or 5” > “pocoo”

If you going to be so poco crazy, pay attention that there are as many people recomending poco as there are posts about people having bugs on poco, which is a lot.

We all know that Poco is a great phone at decent price, but the phone is not for everyone.

Stop pushing people to waste money on something they don’t need.

And if you are recomending to someone you know, don’t be stuborn, tastes and needs differ, if they choose a phone they don’t like, they won’t care, but if they choose a phone they don’t like because you pushed them, you can bet they will mention every time they have a bug or notice something they don’t like.

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  1. Salocink2
    Salocink2
    2018-10-05T02:40:09+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 2:40 am

    Amen ! I’m in Canada and I need B4 LTE so the Pocophone is not an option anyway.

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  2. Voodoomania
    Voodoomania
    2018-10-05T02:42:10+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 2:42 am

    I just ordered it, i am angry because it didn’t arrive yet. (Joking of course)

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  3. __PM_ME_SOMETHING_
    __PM_ME_SOMETHING_
    2018-10-05T02:42:58+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 2:42 am

    People reporting bugs is a good thing.

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  4. Voodoomania
    Voodoomania
    2018-10-05T02:43:53+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 2:43 am

    Buy poco, 3g is fast enough. /s

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  5. Voodoomania
    Voodoomania
    2018-10-05T02:46:14+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 2:46 am

    It’s a great thing, but it seems there are much more bugs on pocophone than other xiaomi phones. It doesn’t give impression that it’s such a good phone.

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  6. Voodoomania
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    2018-10-05T03:04:54+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 3:04 am

    I agree. Especialy about Samsung. Their screens are unbeatable. Sadly, CPU’s they put in their phones are underwhelming.

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  7. zuckernburg
    zuckernburg
    2018-10-05T03:09:20+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 3:09 am

    I think the best value for money decent phone is the essential phone

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  8. WinterHasArrived1993
    WinterHasArrived1993
    2018-10-05T03:19:26+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 3:19 am

    I mean for some people it is. I don’t own Poco nor have I ever recommend it that I recall, but for some people they only rarely don’t have WiFi available…

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  9. nikhil48
    nikhil48
    2018-10-05T03:33:40+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 3:33 am

    Disclaimer: I don’t have a Pocophone, nor am I buying it anytime in the near future, so I couldn’t be less interested whether people buy it or not.

    But to be honest, Poco is a better option than Redmi 6 or 5; or any Xiaomi phone buyer **with a budget**. Is it just because of the SD845? You’re damn right. You’re basically future-proofing your phone if you buy Poco now even “if you don’t need it.” I know my friends/relatives or even parents/grandparents who never flash roms and tweak their phones in any way shape or form, getting phones with lesser chips that always keep dying well within 3 years of purchasing.

    So for that reason alone (more bang for your buck) what’s wrong in saying, “I know your budget is 200 dollars, but with a 100 dollars more you can buy a phone that will last you 5 years, rather than 2.5 years” So you either helped them make a calculated decision, or they ignore your advice and go with another phone. Either way, Poco’s immense popularity means that you will get more recommendations for it even if you didn’t ask, that’s just how things work.

    (P.S. To anyone reading this, don’t buy Poco if your country is not supported by its LTE bands)

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  10. delongedoug
    delongedoug
    2018-10-05T03:35:17+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 3:35 am

    Fortunately LOS will take care of it.

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  11. Voodoomania
    Voodoomania
    2018-10-05T03:42:50+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 3:42 am

    Samsung could shave of some of the price if they didn’t put headphones with the phone, stop offering all of their services with every phone, remove NFC on some phones.

    I get that they have to cover the marketing, innovations and the rest, but it’s not quite working for them in the mid range game.

    It’s like they don’t understand what people really want from a midrange phone

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  12. Voodoomania
    Voodoomania
    2018-10-05T04:02:52+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 4:02 am

    Thing is, faster cpu isn’t really a better one, it will not last longer. And for gaming, in 5 years we will have 150 dollar phones that are stronger than pocophone.

    Samsung S5, is from 2014, it has 2GB ram, it has SD801. And you have Xiaomi at half the price with 3-4gb RAM and SD625 which are on par with S5.

    So you are not future proofing. If you want a stronger phone, go for it, but don’t except that your Poco will last longer than any other Xiaomi phone.

    And Android updates, security updates will most probably stop as soon as Poco F2 (or whatever the name) is released.

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  13. nikhil48
    nikhil48
    2018-10-05T04:04:01+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 4:04 am

    I respectfully disagree. Last phone I used was Oneplus One which had the latest chip at that time. I used it for about 4.5 years, before buying Mi Mix 2. In that timeframe, all my family members have on an average bought 2 phones (on a budget). The chip may not be, be all, end all in a phone, but it is essential to keep up with software and app updates without a hassle for years.

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  14. Voodoomania
    Voodoomania
    2018-10-05T04:04:36+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 4:04 am

    I don’t know about that. What is LOS?

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  15. delongedoug
    delongedoug
    2018-10-05T04:10:39+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 4:10 am

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LineageOS

    Aftermarket system (ROM) that looks more like stock Android but with some additional features/tweaks. Gets rid of the Chinese MIUI software that is notoriously aggressive at killing background apps, having horrible notification handling and now even shows ads inside the system settings. It’s pretty well known that Xiaomi sells their phones so cheaply because they make their money off your information rather than the hardware.

    It takes some research to unlock the bootloader, install TWRP custom recovery and flash the new ROM, but once you’ve done it a few times, it’s a piece of cake. Plenty of how-to’s and guides out there.

    Like the Poco itself, it’s not for everybody.

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  16. Voodoomania
    Voodoomania
    2018-10-05T04:13:55+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 4:13 am

    Oh! I know about Lineage, i had it on S3 Neo. Installing is really a piece of cake and it fixes so much. I didn’t know LOS was short for it.

    Now i feel kinda dumb.

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  17. Voodoomania
    Voodoomania
    2018-10-05T04:15:11+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 4:15 am

    Awesome phone, i had it untill i bought Mi A2. Now my Gf has my 4X. Damn i miss the crazy battery life.

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  18. delongedoug
    delongedoug
    2018-10-05T04:16:11+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 4:16 am

    No worries. 🙂

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  19. nikhil48
    nikhil48
    2018-10-05T04:31:23+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 4:31 am

    I get it. But your last paragraph is just a conjecture. And all I am saying is, that the chip may not be the be all end all, but it is your best shot at future proofing your phone and give you the best bang for your buck.

    If you don’t care for that, sure go for another phone, but don’t slate people for suggesting it as it is right now without a doubt, one of the most best value for money phones (Mi A2 lite comes close). It is subjective, and I know you disagree but it is how it is.

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  20. Tr4sHCr4fT
    Tr4sHCr4fT
    2018-10-05T04:33:02+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 4:33 am

    > remove NFC

    please don’t

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  21. KikeJRR
    KikeJRR
    2018-10-05T04:52:14+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 4:52 am

    My first phone was a 4a, for about half a day, then arrives my 4x. I was a little bit overwhelmed by “buy a Mi A1”, and I did it. I didn’t like it at all; I fell in love with MIUI and now I’m very happy with a Note 5 (plus).

    So, I don’t care at all about the new “buy a poco!” hype. I’m considering a Mi Mix 2 (Who knows? Maybe 3) for later, maybe so many years later.

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  22. airjordan604
    airjordan604
    2018-10-05T05:02:49+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 5:02 am

    I’m in BC on Telus, my Poco gets 15mb DL, good enough for me, streams my IPTV provider, Spotify and YouTube just fine, all I need

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  23. noneym86
    noneym86
    2018-10-05T05:54:34+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 5:54 am

    Redmi Note 5 Pro says hi. Lol

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  24. bankrupt_student
    bankrupt_student
    2018-10-05T06:07:46+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 6:07 am

    Why so complicated when you could just **buy Pocophone**

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  25. ldAbl
    ldAbl
    2018-10-05T06:15:02+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 6:15 am

    No it won’t. Custom ROMs, particularly AOSP ROMs always introduce more bugs.

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  26. lovestaring
    lovestaring
    2018-10-05T06:30:44+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 6:30 am

    Serious question: what am I going to do with the 845 processor aside from gaming ?

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  27. mrfokker
    mrfokker
    2018-10-05T06:33:15+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 6:33 am

    Dat ufs storage tho hnnnnng

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  28. benjimaestro
    benjimaestro
    2018-10-05T06:36:03+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 6:36 am

    flex your benchmark stats on people on the internet

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  29. jotunck
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    2018-10-05T06:53:46+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 6:53 am

    Well I’ll have to disagree. I’m still on a Mi5, battery’s dying but that can always be changed. Just got MIUI 10 too. And the Mi5 still outperforms today’s midrange wrt gaming. If you’re on a budget, nothing gets you more bang for buck than buying last gen’s flagship… Or for this specific generation, poco phone. Assuming you don’t need nfc and it has your carrier bands of course.

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  30. delongedoug
    delongedoug
    2018-10-05T07:23:31+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 7:23 am

    Been on LOS for almost 2 years now, Solid as a rock.

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  31. SponTen
    SponTen
    2018-10-05T07:25:17+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 7:25 am

    > Redmi 5 for those who wants a small phone

    Uhh, what? How is 5.7″ small?? At best it’s “average” sized now.

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  32. jarodlkp
    jarodlkp
    2018-10-05T07:52:54+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 7:52 am

    Stop! Take a break and buy #poco 😈

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  33. dandu3
    dandu3
    2018-10-05T07:58:30+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 7:58 am

    do you know how many pennies it costs to implement NFC in phones

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  34. EarthlyAwakening
    EarthlyAwakening
    2018-10-05T08:15:49+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 8:15 am

    Yeah seriously that phone is 200 dollars out of my budget. It’s good, but no way can I buy it.

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  35. Zwadesht
    Zwadesht
    2018-10-05T08:35:09+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 8:35 am

    Yeah that phone is too expensive. And so many bugs! I’ve never had bugs in any of my phones. My iPhone XS charges perfectly. But the Poco can’t play Netflix in HD!
    Worst phone of 2018. Never recommend!

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  36. pukipukie
    pukipukie
    2018-10-05T09:06:08+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 9:06 am

    Op please buy a poco you won’t ragret it…. Poco put your worry away… On a serious note I’ll recommended it for anyone who want raw powaa…. With cheap price and won’t care bout glass back / metal design beside no matter what phone brand you used you gonna buy a casing for it anyway…if you aren’t I salute you… You sir are a super rare breed… Tldr buy pocophone

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  37. tallwheel
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    2018-10-05T09:22:38+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 9:22 am

    3 years is actually pretty good these days. Anything over 2 and I’d say you are doing OK. The only people I know who have 5 year old phones are old people who have no idea what they are doing and really should have replaced their 1 hour SOT Lollipop piece of junk years ago.

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  38. tallwheel
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    2018-10-05T09:24:58+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 9:24 am

    Have a phone that still runs relatively decently after you and everyone upgrades to Android R.

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  39. tallwheel
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    2018-10-05T09:26:13+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 9:26 am

    Poco is too expensive but iPhone XS isn’t?

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  40. tallwheel
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    2018-10-05T10:31:01+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 10:31 am

    I wondered about that. It was kind of hard for me to tell since I don’t know anything about the Netflix thing.

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  41. Havanatha_banana
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    2018-10-05T10:33:57+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 10:33 am

    They’re replacable though. I’ve changed a screen and a battery myself.

    That’s the main reason most of us still ask for unlockable bootloader even if we don’t flash the rom. Because we want the option if Xiaomi stops supporting our device.

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  42. stephendt
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    2018-10-05T10:46:23+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 10:46 am

    In terms of one-handedness, The Redmi 5a is 70.4mm wide, the Redmi 5 is 72.8mm wide. Not really a huge difference, both are on the smaller side of things. The iPhone 6 is 67mm wide with a 4.7″ display.

    ​

    The Pocophone F1 with a 6.18″ display is 75.3mm wide, and the Redmi Note 4 with a 5.5″ display is 76mm wide, and these are what I’d consider a fairly normal size these days. Screen sizes are not a good indicator of how well it fits in the hand. The Mi Max 3 is 87.4mm wide, which is what I would actually consider “big” and a bit hard for most people to use one handed.

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  43. Voodoomania
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    2018-10-05T11:19:33+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 11:19 am

    Chip mayy be cheap, but i doubt it’s so cheap having people to develop and update the software behind nfc.

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  44. Juuhonber
    Juuhonber
    2018-10-05T11:20:55+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 11:20 am

    I’m never going to buy a phone with a notch, that’s just stupid design and should die so hard.

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  45. IrisuKyouko
    IrisuKyouko
    2018-10-05T11:54:44+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 11:54 am

    Boku no Poco

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  46. Voodoomania
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    2018-10-05T11:59:26+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 11:59 am

    This is not a question of value for money. If you want to browse facebook, instagram and watch youtube, it’s not a good value for money, because you will get that with 3 times less expensive RN4X.

    It’s not a question if people should pay more for faster/stronger phone. Sure, i can buy Pocophone, but it will be a waste of money.

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  47. Voodoomania
    Voodoomania
    2018-10-05T12:07:01+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 12:07 pm

    Yeah, no, cpus evolve, and it’s not just raw power, it’s the instruction sets which will get obsolete.

    Like with AI, google pushes out some update, and hardware developers implement it. Next thing you know, that tech is the centerpiece of the newest Android and you need to buy a new phone to get it.

    And there will be new “flagship killer” fairly soon, while we ask ourself “how can poco be so cheap” phone manufacturers know exactly how poco is cheap, and that they can make even better phone at lower price.

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  48. IrisuKyouko
    IrisuKyouko
    2018-10-05T12:09:54+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 12:09 pm

    They also referenced an infamous charging bug of the recently released iOS 12, where some phones wouldn’t charge via the cable if the screen is off. The bug is mostly reported on the new iPhone XS and XS Max.

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  49. tallwheel
    tallwheel
    2018-10-05T12:15:43+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 12:15 pm

    …or that.

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  50. IAmAnAnonymousCoward
    IAmAnAnonymousCoward
    2018-10-05T12:16:28+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 12:16 pm

    That’s what I was asking myself and why I kept my A1 for now.

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  51. Zwadesht
    Zwadesht
    2018-10-05T12:20:39+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 12:20 pm

    r/woosh

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  52. tallwheel
    tallwheel
    2018-10-05T12:24:39+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 12:24 pm

    Yeah. You got me.

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  53. dandu3
    dandu3
    2018-10-05T12:29:16+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 12:29 pm

    It’s literally built into Android and the SoC, you only need the proper driver and a coil and it works

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  54. naxster921
    naxster921
    2018-10-05T12:35:24+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 12:35 pm

    I want to buy a Poco F1, but I’m afraid of the screen bleeding and if it will get worse over the time :O

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  55. sn_fake
    sn_fake
    2018-10-05T12:41:29+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 12:41 pm

    I am confused between Pocophone F1, Moto one power, Nokia 6.1 plus and Xiaomi A2.

    Please help.

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  56. Voodoomania
    Voodoomania
    2018-10-05T12:46:27+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 12:46 pm

    It will, but samsung has that touch to transfer thing that needs to be coded. And all other Samsung specific thing that uses NFC.

    It’s cheap, but not as cheap as it could be.

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  57. Voodoomania
    Voodoomania
    2018-10-05T12:47:23+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 12:47 pm

    I hear only som screens get it, Tianma screens i believe.

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  58. ludexprime
    ludexprime
    2018-10-05T12:50:19+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 12:50 pm

    Buy a OnePlus instead 😅

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  59. VaporImitation
    VaporImitation
    2018-10-05T13:14:01+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 1:14 pm

    I paid 650€ for a galaxy note II at launch, and it died in 5years.

    300€ for 3y is better in my book. (miss dat amoled tho lol)

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  60. jemzhang
    jemzhang
    2018-10-05T13:25:06+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 1:25 pm

    Pocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocolocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocolocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopoco

    There’s a loco in there, good luck finding it

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  61. Zwadesht
    Zwadesht
    2018-10-05T13:28:04+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 1:28 pm

    No worries man.

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  62. stereoprologic
    stereoprologic
    2018-10-05T14:12:33+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 2:12 pm

    Just buy Poco again

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  63. ripp102
    ripp102
    2018-10-05T14:16:48+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 2:16 pm

    Have a mental problem? Buy a poco.
    Need to spend money? Buy a poco.
    What to get married? Save the money and buy a poco,
    For everything else ? Poco

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  64. nikhil48
    nikhil48
    2018-10-05T14:28:35+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 2:28 pm

    It’s on line 5 (on my phone), near about 50th or so Poco.

    P.S: Yes, I have super bored.

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  65. chic_luke
    chic_luke
    2018-10-05T14:41:08+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 2:41 pm

    I’m waiting for the Sony XPeria XA3. I’m eyeing the Pocophone a lot, but I think I’ll wait for the second batch due to the bugs. If the Sony XA3 will have a decent price, I think it will be REALLY worth considering. It isn’t an 845 CPU, but aside from that everything else seems solid as fuck.

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  66. bduddy
    bduddy
    2018-10-05T14:58:25+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 2:58 pm

    I don’t know, I mean, from my perspective the Pocophone is literally perfect, except for those damn LTE bands >>>>><<<<<

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  67. chic_luke
    chic_luke
    2018-10-05T15:05:16+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 3:05 pm

    If you change your phone every couple years? Nothing too practical. The sense of having these overpowered specs is that they are future proof. Think about it. If performance and battery life are *good enough* when you have just bought it, they will be trash in a few years. Ask me how I know, I learnt this the hard way. If they are way more than what you need now, chances are they’re still going to be more than adequate in 2-3 years time.

    There are exceptions of course. If you use Snapchat and Instagram stories quite heavily, or use Google Maps quite a lot (for some reasons that App is heavy), or if you use Facebook and Messenger, an 845 will have an easier time driving that. Especially when it comes to using Snapchat lenses – that’s computer vision stuff that puts a lot of strain on the processor. But if you’re not that kind of user, a 660 will be more than enough for you. But we should forget the processor for a second: it’s great, but the real deals here are the UFS 2.1 storage (ever changed from HDD to SSD? The difference isn’t so drastic here, but it should have given you a good idea how important I/O performance is, even more important than CPU performance) and the 4000mAh battery (that to be fair the Redmi has too).

    If you are the kind of person that buys a phone and only changes it when it’s absolutely necessary and it dies (after about 4 years)? You’re going to have a better time after the second year has passed. New apps and android versions will still be handled decently, and even after the fourth year of life on the performance side of things the phone will actually be useful and it will at least keep up with €200 budget phones marketed by then. But you change your phone every like 4 years anyway, so you effectively ended up saving a nice €100.

    If you buy somthing with a 636/660, it will definitely start to show its age sooner, as you update your Android version either officially or unofficially, as apps get heavier, as content piles up on your device. If you swap phones frequently and get tired quickly, it would be a waste of money to buy this phone. If you don’t like how it looks, it would also be a waste of time. Maybe it would work super quickly, but if you don’t like how it looks, your experience will suffer from that. But this is subjective.

    So to be fair, if you’re the kind of person that swaps their phone quite often (2-3 years), a Redmi would be a better fit for you. You spend a lot less, and you still get a balanced device with tech specs that will be just OK for the next 2-3 years, and you will have some cash left over by not buying the Poco to get another phone in 2 years. If you’re the kind of person that keeps their phones until they die… Do yourself a favour and get a Pocophone, it just makes more sense to fork out the extra if you’re that kind of user. Your phone is something you use for hours everyday and a lag-free experience can influence your quality of life more than you think. Whatever you do, though, avoid Snapdragon 625. Even in 2 years you will start to have a bad time.

    And if I have to be super honest? It’s not like there are no alternatives.

    * The Nokia 7 plus will give you much better build quality with the classic Nokia durability and a CLEAN version of Android. It’s also the only phone in this price bracket that runs Android Pie. I’m not sure the Poco will even get Pie, and when it will, it will be really late. If you like the polycarbonate back on the Pocophone, the back on this phone has a very similar feel and durability, only slightly more premium.
    * The Honor 10 also keeps up with the Poco when on discount (it’s currently 15 euro cheaper on Amazon right now), and it’s the obvious choice if you want to go all-in on design. You still get USB C and headphone jack, though sadly the storage is not expandable, and the software is in need of a major overhaul. It’s also the one that will *feel* the most like a flagship in your hand.
    * The upcoming Sony XPeria XA3 is also a step above in many departments. Better design, probably better camera quality, same ports, square corners, no notch.
    * Not for everybody but have you considered the used market? An OK-condition 128GB iPhone 7 [can be had for €360](https://www.ebay.it/itm/APPLE-IPHONE-7-128-GB-SILVER-12-MESI-GARANZIA-RICONDIZIONATO-GRADO-AB/153204535701?hash=item23abb3b195:g:egEAAOSwVYtbtN1A), a new boxed one’lus 5t is [under 400](https://www.ebay.it/itm/ONEPLUS-5T-DUAL-SIM-LTE-6GB-64GB-Midnight-Black-Stock-in-EU-Nuovo-con-Scatola/222892607323?hash=item33e56f475b:g:q20AAOSwvshasi7a)
    * I haven’t tried it, but if you’re n the US, the Nokia 7.1 does seem like the most sensible option here. Full US LTE bands coverage, great design, clean software, it’s got all the ports.
    * Or as I said if you change your phone frequently anyway, you could just get a Redmi Note 5 or Mi A2 and call it a day.

    If I wasn’t a geek that needs an unlockable bootloader to extend support past the time when Xiaomi says it’s over, I would honestly get a Nokia 7 plus blindfolded. Disclaimer, I have tried practically all the phones I recommended here barring a couple.

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  68. m4xc4v413r4
    m4xc4v413r4
    2018-10-05T15:12:48+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 3:12 pm

    You still don’t need it. Do you seriously think you need the best current SoC to be able to run apps (not games) in the next 5+ years? If you do you’re delusional. Phones older than 5 year old today can run every single app ever made without any problem. We’re talking about phones that have less than 10% of the 845’s antutu score.

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  69. wittywalrus1
    wittywalrus1
    2018-10-05T15:20:09+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 3:20 pm

    It will push the first poco in the poco pipeline, thus allowing you to receive it faster.

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  70. tallwheel
    tallwheel
    2018-10-05T15:38:48+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 3:38 pm

    I disagree completely. Do you have any of your old phones and have you tried using them recently? Have you tried installing newer versions of Android on them (via custom roms if necessary)? Apps and Android versions nowadays are not made to run on phones that old at all. Yes you CAN run new apps on old phones, but the experience is far from smooth. Yes you absolutely do want the power to burn if you’re planning on keeping and using a phone for that long. Otherwise you’re going to be having a very slow and clunky experience during the later years of your phone’s life as you watch your friends enjoy smooth experiences on their newer (albeit overpriced, money-wasting) phones.

    And I don’t even play games on my phone. I just want camera and basic apps to run smoothly. And, there is unquestionably a higher chance of being able to do that for a longer time if your phone has power to burn when you purchase it.

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  71. lovestaring
    lovestaring
    2018-10-05T15:54:30+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 3:54 pm

    Like I’m going to have a smartphone for 5 years..

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  72. adrieltan
    adrieltan
    2018-10-05T16:21:18+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 4:21 pm

    The redmi 5 is too close to size to the 5 plus. Thankfully they made it smaller with the 6.

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  73. naxster921
    naxster921
    2018-10-05T16:39:07+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 4:39 pm

    Hmm is there any other screens Poco uses other than Tianma screens?😨

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  74. Ey_J
    Ey_J
    2018-10-05T16:52:52+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 4:52 pm

    I’m stealing that

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  75. m4xc4v413r4
    m4xc4v413r4
    2018-10-05T16:53:33+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 4:53 pm

    > Do you have any of your old phones and have you tried using them recently?

    Yes I still use an original Sony Xperia Z and it runs any app just fine. So yeeeaaahhh… you can theorize all you want but I’m actually talking from experience.

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  76. John_D-oe
    John_D-oe
    2018-10-05T16:55:47+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 4:55 pm

    nexus 7 2013 with
    Snapdragon s4 pro is still doing good on custom rom and kernel (slightly overclocked) 😉

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  77. chic_luke
    chic_luke
    2018-10-05T16:58:25+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 4:58 pm

    Nokia 7 plus has a 660 SoC. Performance is underwhelming for the type of processor, but they’ve been hard at work fixing it and i need to try the phone again on Pie and report back. Performance on the 7.1 seems solid from the start even though it’s only a 636, and since those two processors share a lot of software it’s a sign of good things to come for the Nokia 7 plus.

    The real reason why I don’t buy Nokia, though, is that they don’t let you unlock your bootloader. But again, they’re working on this, so I’ll check back later.

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  78. woainii
    woainii
    2018-10-05T16:59:21+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 4:59 pm

    801 nearly runs circles around 625

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  79. John_D-oe
    John_D-oe
    2018-10-05T17:13:10+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 5:13 pm

    redmi note 5 global (or pro) is the best bang for your buck hardware-wise which ever have got produced. throw pixel experience at it with custom kernel and you have an continously updated (better than) stock android pie, apply some slight overclocking to close the gap to the Snapdragon 660 (since 636 is the exact same SoC but underclocked) and set the kernel’s cpu governor to ondemand or battersaving and you have got yourself a “Pixel 2 equivalent” for under 150€. purrfect!! 😎👍

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  80. Voodoomania
    Voodoomania
    2018-10-05T17:15:46+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 5:15 pm

    https://www.kimovil.com/en/xiaomi-redmi-note-4x/antutu

    https://www.kimovil.com/en/samsung-galaxy-s5-16gb/antutu

    https://www.notebookcheck.net/625-vs-801-MSM8974AC-vs-801-MSM8974AB_8168_5680_4675.247596.0.html

    Sure it can.

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  81. chic_luke
    chic_luke
    2018-10-05T17:25:19+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 5:25 pm

    *cough*

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  82. Voodoomania
    Voodoomania
    2018-10-05T17:39:40+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 5:39 pm

    Antutu and bunch of other benchmarks.

    If you have a better way to judge the cpu performance, be my guest.

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  83. Voodoomania
    Voodoomania
    2018-10-05T17:46:46+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 5:46 pm

    Both the same devices (manufacturers) with only different chipset, both optimized by the same manufacturer, with same amount of bloatware?

    Or totaly different devices?

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  84. dotvhs
    dotvhs
    2018-10-05T18:37:39+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 6:37 pm

    Agreed, I do have Mi 5 as well, bought it at launch and this phone is still rocking. Only battery is dying, it won’t last full day now really. Ah and I got a bizarre red spot on the screen, it showed up recently. It triggers me a bit but i got used to it.

    To sum it up, Mi 5 is a very good phone till this day, the problem is only with battery.

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  85. crow_jam
    crow_jam
    2018-10-05T18:40:39+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 6:40 pm

    Is there a guide on how to do those things? I have saved your post to do some googling later, but a guide would be perfect.

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  86. Err0rc0de
    Err0rc0de
    2018-10-05T18:47:49+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 6:47 pm

    Pocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopoco**~~loco~~**pocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopoco**~~loco~~**pocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopocopoco

    There’s a loco in there, good luck finding it

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  87. nikhil48
    nikhil48
    2018-10-05T19:20:14+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 7:20 pm

    I guess to each their own. I generally buy phones with highest specs for around 400 or so dollars (iPhone 4 refurbished, OnePlus One, Mi Mix 2) and make them last around 4 years rather than spending 150-200 every year or two. Everyone’s mileage varies, but for me personally, $100 per year for your device sounds reasonable, but just in case you fall on hard times and have to cut back, I’d rather have a flagship device that I can continue to use. (My OnePlus One still works really well).

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  88. Android_ge3k
    Android_ge3k
    2018-10-05T19:25:36+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 7:25 pm

    lol sound like a hater.

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  89. John_D-oe
    John_D-oe
    2018-10-05T19:47:09+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 7:47 pm

    since I am at work right now, I’ll just drop two links which will cover the general process of installing “Pixel Experience ROM”. please let me know when you need further details:
    http://www.xda-developers.com/flash-generic-system-image-project-treble-device

    in regards to kernel tweaking you have to look for a custom kernel which suits to the phone (codename “whyred”) and allows overclocking. for overclocking with the help of the app named “Kernel Aduitor” you will additionally need root access. I am actually looking for a suitable kernel, too! 🙂

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  90. snowhawk1994
    snowhawk1994
    2018-10-05T20:22:16+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 8:22 pm

    I found a new Mi A2 64GB for 160€ here in Germany and recommended it to my sister.
    The pocophone costs almost twice as much and is overkill for normal tasks.

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  91. Voodoomania
    Voodoomania
    2018-10-05T20:50:43+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 8:50 pm

    Only to fanboys

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  92. AdobongTsinelas
    AdobongTsinelas
    2018-10-05T21:14:53+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 9:14 pm

    You make me un poco loco

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  93. XScizor
    XScizor
    2018-10-05T21:43:15+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 9:43 pm

    Using redmi note 3 for 2.5 years now. Display broke 10 months ago. Replaced with original from service centre. Still working great. The battery doesnt last as much. Custom kernel with some undervolt and underclock helps it last a day. The power buttons fucked up though.

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  94. woainii
    woainii
    2018-10-05T22:00:21+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 10:00 pm

    My bad I was misinformed. The GPU in 625 is a clear step up. CPU configuration is superior in 625 as well.

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  95. XScizor
    XScizor
    2018-10-05T22:20:54+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 10:20 pm

    The s4 pro was 2012s high end chipset though.

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  96. LordDrakota
    LordDrakota
    2018-10-05T22:32:43+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 10:32 pm

    Where did you order it?

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  97. m4xc4v413r4
    m4xc4v413r4
    2018-10-05T23:29:22+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 11:29 pm

    Probably, yes. It’s also 5 or 6 years old. And we’re comparing with the current high end chipset, seems pretty fair.

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  98. Kulcha-Wala
    Kulcha-Wala
    2018-10-05T23:29:55+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 11:29 pm

    Moto G 1st gen on pie??

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  99. XScizor
    XScizor
    2018-10-05T23:52:38+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 5, 2018 at 11:52 pm

    Not comparing to anything, just stating the fact that being a high end chip helps.

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  100. tripleaardvark2
    tripleaardvark2
    2018-10-06T00:12:59+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 6, 2018 at 12:12 am

    /r/Xiaomemes

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  101. tallwheel
    tallwheel
    2018-10-06T00:14:15+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 6, 2018 at 12:14 am

    Exactly! That’s why you get one with the power to burn now if you want longevity. That’s exactly what I’m saying, and idiots here are downvoting. I think the point is pretty unarguable.

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  102. tallwheel
    tallwheel
    2018-10-06T00:15:45+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 6, 2018 at 12:15 am

    And then there are people running LOS on their Galaxy S2 because they can.

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  103. airjordan604
    airjordan604
    2018-10-06T00:21:14+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 6, 2018 at 12:21 am

    from never-mrsp on eBay, got it when ebates.ca had 10% cash back and eBay had 10% back in eBay bucks, so double dipped…. 6gb / 128gb version

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  104. woainii
    woainii
    2018-10-06T00:52:59+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 6, 2018 at 12:52 am

    It’s Indians recommending it sir

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  105. nikhil48
    nikhil48
    2018-10-06T01:39:57+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 6, 2018 at 1:39 am

    iPhones suck for longevity though. 2 years, 2.5 years max, and battery doesn’t last the full work day, with their new iOS draining battery much faster (apparently this year was the only new iOS version which actually kept the battery life same or better for last year’s phones) Not only that the stutter gets more and more pronounced in year 3. I could not live with iPhone without jailbreaking, but later on the jailbreaking community wasn’t keeping up with the software patches. Apple will make you upgrade every 2 years.

    I’m not sure about Xiaomi’s other build qualities though. I got the Mix 2 because I thought it was of comparable build quality to all the flagships. Although I would have bought Poco if it was released 6 months ago. Ceramic or metal or glass back dont matter to me, I put on dbrand skins anyway.

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  106. sandpapir
    sandpapir
    2018-10-06T01:58:48+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 6, 2018 at 1:58 am

    Ok, I just bought a Pocophone. I have the first gen Mi Max at the moment and I’m missing a bit better camera and more RAM. I didn’t want to dish out 500-600 euros or even more.

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  107. chic_luke
    chic_luke
    2018-10-06T03:31:24+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 6, 2018 at 3:31 am

    Basically. Second gen, but it’s just a first gen with a bigger display. Same processor, same RAM, maybe storage is a little slower compared to the first gen. And surprisingly, everything works!

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  108. bankrupt_student
    bankrupt_student
    2018-10-06T03:39:48+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 6, 2018 at 3:39 am

    The S5 Fr 2014 has 2gb of RAM and SD801, 1080p AMOLED, which offers SD625 level performance and the phone overall is very usable today. Decent cameras with OIS, okay speed, wireless charging, decent rom scene.

    On the other hand, a budget 2014 phone might have 512 Mb RAM and, some 480p screen, potato cameras, that will be wholly unusable today.

    That’s the philosophy when buy phone, the need to last at least 4 years and be viable in the 4th year. So I always buy flagships with features for this reason.

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  109. douchecanoo
    douchecanoo
    2018-10-06T07:31:39+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 6, 2018 at 7:31 am

    I’m in BC on Koodo so same network as Telus, looking at buying an F1.

    On frequencycheck.com it looks like the F1 doesn’t support HSPA+ on Telus, have you ever lost LTE? What did it fall back to? Any coverage issues?

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  110. airjordan604
    airjordan604
    2018-10-06T08:07:19+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 6, 2018 at 8:07 am

    yeah it shows 4G / LTE mainly, but it has fallen back on 3G / H+ a few times, it’s done way better than I thought, I was expecting a bad reception experience due to no Band 4 LTE, but it’s been the opposite, I’m mainly in the southern GVRD area (South Surrey / Tsawwassen)

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  111. allthesongsmakesense
    allthesongsmakesense
    2018-10-06T09:18:43+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 6, 2018 at 9:18 am

    This is interesting. I know you’re in Canada but I’ve read reports about people in the US using this phone with TMobile and getting good 3G Speed.

    Then I read a couple of reports about not even getting a phone signal just to make calls or texts.

    This person lives in NYC. Ouch.

    So I’ve completely given up on the Pocophone.

    Here’s hoping there is a Pocophone 2 release in the next couple of months with North American LTE Bands.

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  112. Kulcha-Wala
    Kulcha-Wala
    2018-10-06T09:53:11+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 6, 2018 at 9:53 am

    Galaxy S3 of budget phones

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  113. airjordan604
    airjordan604
    2018-10-06T10:27:25+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 6, 2018 at 10:27 am

    yeah I’ve heard the same thing, completely depends on the area I think, in the states I’ve heard the same thing, in some major metro areas on either AT&T or TM people get nothing, and/or some have great 3G speeds…. this phone for the price is crazy, I’m getting 10hrs of SOT!

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  114. yongj1e
    yongj1e
    2018-10-06T11:14:35+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 6, 2018 at 11:14 am

    good move. i fell for the poco hype and bought one, and was really disappointed. the build quality feels worse than even redmi A series (im coming from rn5p). the display is absolute garbage with screen bleeding (mine is the global version!) and the notch and curve is too much for me. returned it and got a Mix 2 instead, and now i’m loving it (got used to the missing headphone jack way faster than getting used to the stupid notch).

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  115. chic_luke
    chic_luke
    2018-10-06T16:05:21+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 6, 2018 at 4:05 pm

    Unheard of support. The original maintainers left and lost interest claiming Pie would never run on it, new ones came in and wouldn’t you know it. I think Pie will be the last release because Pie + opengapps pico fills up /system already so this phone has reached its physical limit, but unless Android 10 stays the same size or gets smaller, it’s the end of the ride. A good end of the ride. Did every update from 4.4.4 through 9.0. Fantastic dev support. Some things in the phone broke or stopped working, but it’s surprisingly usable for its age. I remember when I bought it it was this phone vs. Galaxy S3 neo. The Galaxy had better specs, but no custom rom support whatsoever. All my friends who had to get a phoen then got the S3 neo and… they never saw Lollipop, and all of those phones failed on their own a couple of years back. While I was chilling on official 6.0, another S3 neo was on 4.4.4, the paint from the (low quality) plastic had come off and the battery had already died and been replaced once.

    I haven’t changed phone yet for a few reasons.

    1) A phone this well supported appears once every 5 years. I wanted to thouroughly enjoy the support until it dies.

    2) Don’t really know what to buy. I had buoght a Mi A1, but returned it because I got a defective panel and to be fair I did not notice a VERY significant gap between the two phones. I mean sure it was faster and all, but it was not a definite improvement. For example, the Moto G is plastic but has better speakers, screen and build quality. The A1 looked so washed out put next to the Moto G for some reason. And that is a thing that pushed be to the Poco: after trying both the Mi A1 and the Redmi Note 5, I felt comfortable holding none of them. They felt lighter, more fragile and the kind of metal they had on was a slippery scratch magnet. The A1 felt a little more solid than the Redmi, not not even comparable to the old tanky Moto. Turns out, I would have needed to buy it a PLASTIC case anyway to hold the phone without dropping it. Holding my Moto G was a way different experience. Grippy, solid, no creaking or bending, gets the job done, won’t shatter with a little drop on concrete. Gone is the point of having a metal phone for me.

    3) Fast-paced market. Buy something now, something new will be out in 2 weeks. Xiaomi is to blame here.

    4) Nothing with promising enough dev support. I was close to buying the Redmi Note 5 after the Mi A1 (which I thought a better device after trying both), but then the 2 month wait happened and the Poco came out, so I’m pretty much settled on the Poco. I’m pretty confident it will reach Moto G – like levels of custom ROM support and, if I take care of it, it will last me at least through my bachelor’s degree.

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  116. Kulcha-Wala
    Kulcha-Wala
    2018-10-06T16:46:54+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 6, 2018 at 4:46 pm

    Totally.. back then, little did we know that the phone we were buying was 3310 of smartphones lol

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  117. chic_luke
    chic_luke
    2018-10-06T17:30:23+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 6, 2018 at 5:30 pm

    I have a feeling the Pocophone is the first worthy successor so far. So eh, let’s see.

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  118. John_D-oe
    John_D-oe
    2018-10-06T20:35:33+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 6, 2018 at 8:35 pm

    Congrats, it’s a lovely phone! If I could, I’d get myself another one just as a spare 😅

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  119. John_D-oe
    John_D-oe
    2018-10-06T21:01:27+00:00Added an answer on Tháng 10 6, 2018 at 9:01 pm

    it’s my first xiaomi too, I’m just as curious as you, on how long it will last… screen and battery are the components most likely to fail first, but in terms of repairability I think note5 quite easy to replace the screen and battery, there’s plenty of YouTube videos about it.

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