And only God knows how much they tried to rig the poll in favor of MIUI. That’s even more embarassing. I switched to a rom called Pixel Experience recently and I’m really happy with my Mi5 now.

Yeah me too, but this says a lot about Xiaomi. If this happens to Samsung or some other brand it would’ve been all over the news…

LOL seems like Mi A1 itself is hurting the sales of their other phones 😛

Yes but you have to understand that most people following mi on twitter are xiaomi enthusiasts who are into xiaomi products. And a lot of those don’t prefer miui says a lot.

I like miui more than stock android. It just looks better and has much more features.

Its undercutting their RN4 sales which is their biggest item atm. in India.

Though hardware is still Xiaomi so they get that even if people buy A1 plus they might have some sort of flexible financial arrangement with Google in case it sells really well, which it is.

I would actively prefer 16:9 to 18:9 and I bet many others would too

Read my post again.

i dont think so. they are in a slightly different price bracket. i would never buy a mi a1 with it costing close to double a rn4x.

i still think the rn4x is better with NOS or LOS and GCAM even if they costed the same. its not worth the extra money for 2-3h less SOT.

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Well, it’s a poll on Xiaomi’s twitter, what did you expect? Most people following Xiaomi would be MIUI fans. I’m actually surprised that stock Android was leading the poll.

Weird, I’m not having any sort of issue!

It’s possible, considering they deleted the poll after the result wasn’t in their own favour.

Chinese companies has no sense of design. Never liked Samsung,MI UI including this square icons but obviously comes with pretty handy features.

I’m Chinese and I like stock Android.

Just install the latest global Dev via EDl and then try to unlock the bootloader

Bezeless 16:9 is smaller than bezeless 18:9, you absolutely do not need an 18:9 aspect ratio to have small bezels, why would this even be the case..?

18:9 was introduced as a completely new unsupported standard with zero video content made for it, in an attempt to artificially bump the on paper screen size (to appeal to people like you) without actually increasing screen surface area by any significant amount. Not only this, the top of the screen becomes even harder to reach one handed.

The final part of my point is that manufacturers aren’t sticking to 18:9, there is no current standard, you have Samsung using 18.5:9, Apple using 19.5:9 (in IPhone X), essential using 19:10, and then LG, Xiaomi and a few others using 18:9. It’s absolutely ridiculous. The only advantage it has is for watching films which are in cinematic aspect ratio, but I’d wager very few people actually do this regularly enough to make it worthwhile changing so much for.

I call myself an enthousiast and I prefer MIUI over stock. In fact the first custom rom I’ve ever flashed was MIUI waaay back on my HTC Desire when it stopped getting official updates from HTC and I wanted to upgrade from Android 2.x to Ice Cream Sandwich. Xiaomi has earned a lot of techie fans from the days when they didn’t sell their own hardware and would support perfectly good phones that the manufacturers had given up on.

idk man, they deleted the poll because they lost. lol

Oh right, I mean it’s not even a subjective issue. If you like MIUI then you are definitely a brainlet manchild. It’s like saying shit is tastier than chocolates. It’s not, only a braindead or an insane person will say it.

Yes

I like stock Android but I also like MIUI a lot. I don’t get why it has to be a competition, or why people feel the need to disqualify others who happen to have a different preference than themselves.

I feel like a lot of Android fans, maybe because of the rivalry with Apple or something else, have become purists that see stock as “the one true Android” and don’t really give any forks an honest chance, something that ironically goes against FOSS culture.

No shit!!

Everyone in my friend circle has a Xiaomi phone and 2 of them have Mi A1. If i were to buy a phone, I too would chose A1

Leftits + Chinese trolled epic style

MiUI also comes with theme app which allows you to use any theme and if you want only icons from a specific theme.

No problem man, I think we’re all guilty of it tbh, even if we don’t realise it…

Lol ok

When I’m holding the screen one handed in landscape, it makes it even more impossibler to reach the other side of the screen in any reasonable fashion to press something.

Aside from the fact that 99.9% [guessing] of video content is 16:9

The Note 4 Global, even when bought locally, is almost half the price of the Mi A1, I don’t think they are in the same segment.

To be honest they shouldn’t be embarrased with the results. I own a Mi 6 and MIUI is something I don’t mind to stick with when there was no custom roms. I’d rather have MIUI than EMUI or Samsung, LG ROMs

Not where I live. BTW I never said it is hurting sales of just Note 4. I think it is hurting sales of a number of phones over all. Even people looking for expensive xiaomi phones might settle for A1 and people looking for slightly cheaper might be motivated to pay a bit more just for the stock android experience.

This is normal for every company, and no one wants to lose their reputation.

I’m casting movies to a TV with my smartphone. And as you say, they’ve been cropped anyway. Also my TV is 16:9! Huh.

On the actual screen, I’m watching short internet video, which are either 16:9, or because some idiot filmed it that way, 9:16.

So practically speaking, your point is entirely moot.

If we were discussing what professional projector or super expensive TV I want to get with maybe a custom resolution, then that would actually be worth mentioning.

Same. It’s super annoying that my 6.2in S8+ screen feels like it’s the same size as my old 5.5in 6s+ screen.

If you’re going to troll, at least use decent bait.

I feel ya man, I currently use a giant of a phone (Xiaomi mi max 2, 6.44 inch 16:9) which is perfect size for my needs, but I had a go on my friends’ galaxy s8 and it just felt like I was using my old 5.1 inch galaxy s7 again.

I’d probably need 7 inch 18:9 for a similar experience to what I currently get.

The person in question had already said he wanted more screen and less bezel, it’s basically a fact that the 18:9 screens with higher length values are designed to appeal to people like him, I did not mean it in a mean way, I meant it in a way that was factually correct.

The fact that they have higher screen to body ratios itself is down to the smaller bezels, not really the change in aspect ratio. And the increased surface area of said screens is basically negligible unless you’re watching films in cinematic aspect ratio (unless you cut off part of 16:9 videos), as the vast majority of videos people watch on their phones will produce black bars.

Nobody is arguing it isn’t easier to grip a 5.9 inch 18:9 phone than a 5.9 inch 16:9 phone, but the two shouldn’t even be being compared in the first place because one is far larger than the other.

The argument I’m making is that we should have shorter bezeless 16:9 phones, not 16:9 phones of the same physical screen length as 18:9 phones.

Let’s agree to disagree about what you meant.

However, widescreen benefits everything you do on a smartphone since content is vertically displayed.

And yes, most videos get black bars so what? It’s not like you’re seeing more on a 16:9 screen anyway.

I’ve used CyanogenMod and LineageOS my whole life but stopped recently because Android has simply added all the features I installed those ROMs for.

The only time I can see myself using them again is if my phone stops getting updates.

I too use RN4X. LOS is smoother than miui. LOS has more FPS and benchmark scores.

Never said they didn’t have the same width (they do), but even assuming this to be the reason for their inception over just saying they have longer screen, it has major issues. On the one hand many are arguing for 18:9 screens for the fact that that they keep the same width and so are easier to grip one handed, yet at the same time the added height makes it very hard to reach the top of the screen whilst using one handed, forcing two handed use, at which point, why not just have a bigger bezeless 16:9 screen if using two hands anyway?

The fact that software keys take up part of the screen also just means a smaller usable amount of screen compared to buttons embedded in the bottom bezel (unless watching video where they disappear, but you get black bars and no benefit of longer screen).

Is anyone aware how can I install regular android on redmi ?

The backgrounding thing was the last straw for me. I can’t deal with apps constantly reloading with **4GB** of RAM.

Yes and the reloading too, I’d notice that if I switched out of something and went back many apps would have to reload and I’d just lose whatever I had in them. I have a Samsung tablet that I use about as much as my phone and it just doesn’t have any of these issues. But my Redmi 5 Plus does seem better so far, I came from a Redmi Note 2. I haven’t noticed it killing anything yet.

What do you mean?

And that’s fair enough if you genuinely prefer viewing an extra email or two over using a phone one handed. That’s the beauty of android though, you have the choice, however, users are quickly being left without the choice between 16:9 and 18:9, and for all the wrong reasons.

Every one handed mode I’ve used makes the screen smaller in some way, seems like a bad way to deal with too tall a screen to me.

To be fair, I would never have bought a Xiaomi phone if the A1 didn’t exist.

i myself have xiaomi mi4 but have lineage os 14.1(nougat) on it…..cuz i got bored of no new major features…..no nougat upgrade with miui9…..i get weekly updates on lineage os….ui is kind of ok

I ran MIUI pretty much exclusively on my HTC T-Mobile G2. It was the best rom for that phone, hands down.

I used to be skeptical about it but 18:9 or 2:1 is great. It enables you to display more content without making the phone wider, which is the most important thing in how large it feels in the hand. I’m tall and have big hands but I got sick of the size of my Nexus 6P and switching to a narrower phone was such a relief. Wider aspect ratio is better in every way except when displaying 16:9 content but you can still zoom/crop if you don’t like black bars and most movies aren’t 16:9 either. 18:9 and 16:9 aren’t directly comparable when it comes to screen *area* however the former actually gives me more usable screen – mobile phone content is mostly vertical. “You could just scroll more on a shorter screen” is a ridiculous argument. You could then just move the screen closer to your eyes and have a bigger screen as well.

They could make bezeless 16:9 phones but then they would still be limited by screen width in how large the screen can be before it is too wide to hold in the hand comfortably.

I mean surely it would depend on the size of the 16:9 screen, as the buttons wouldn’t need to get bigger and bigger as screen size increases.

You’re getting mixed up between ‘bezelless’ and an 18:9 aspect ratio there, bezeless is small bezels, regardless of the aspect ratio.

I fail to see how it’s a valid concern, on screen buttons have always disappeared when video content is being shown regardless of black bars etc.

Except 16:9 is not one handed friendly either. Even on a 5.2″ screen you have to stretch your hand really hard to reach the top of the screen comfortably. Most of the time I do not find it an issue on my S8 anyway. It has easily accessible one handed mode and I never have to reach for the top of the screen to pull down the notification shade, I can just swipe down anywhere on the home screen.

Having used 5.7″ 16:9 and 5.8″ 18.5:9 back and forth for a month, I was far more impressed with the wider aspect ratio screen. Whenever I would switch to it from 16:9, the difference in hand was ridiculous, as if the phone was so much smaller and yet the screen was more usable. When switching back to 5.7″ 16:9, the screen would always feel unnecessarily wide and yet too short vertically. Both phones use on screen buttons which take up screen space and you *really* feel it on 16:9 but not so much on 18.5:9 because there is plenty of vertical space available.

If you carry around a tablet in your hand then yes, I agree it doesn’t really matter. For me, with phones of the size of the iPhone X or the S8, the wider aspect ratio is fantastic.

> The thing is, a 5.7 inch 16:9 phone is bigger than even a 5.8 inch 18.5:9 phone when you’re looking at actual screen surface area, so of course the smaller will feel nicer in the hand.

Yes, the surface is bigger, but it doesn’t really feel that way unless watching videos.

I guess I can see your point with larger phones. I could have switched from a 5.7″ 16:9 to an S8+ but I would just get taller screen and not much improvement in handling the phone. Instead, with the regular S8 I get a screen that is still comparable to 5.7″ 16:9 and yet in a much, much smaller package.

They’ve paid users who are even ready to dance naked for tshirts and freebies.

Yes, I prefer my handheld device to be the same ratio as 720, 1080, and 4K TV’s that most current HD content is already designed for, and has been for years.

I don’t need a handheld device to accurately display cinematic movie’s filmed in 18:9 for 800″ theatre screens.