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oof.
link to the tweet?
The one thing that really bothers me is the response some (not all) of the subscribers have around here.
This is par for the course, they do this in China all the time!
Or
What do you expect on a deal too good to be true?
It’s a shady practice and does’t look good on Xiaomi and I say this as someone who happily has a Xiaomi phone. Good on the UK for calling them out on this.
Is there a possibility of something like they swap it to out of stock first after which they check accounts which pinged servers first and allocates fulfills those ?
Not surprised tbh. Love their products but chinese = chinese. Their “transparent” Mi 8 explorer wasn’t really transparent either.
for the lazy
https://twitter.com/phil_williams81/status/1060871367812415488
To be fair I don’t actually agree, there was a JSON call which returned stock numbers. Whether it was used in this specific button I’m not sure. I was monitoring the day the sale went live (actually multiple times) and the button switched to out of stock in what appeared to be milliseconds
Sure, but the problem is that now if someone in the UK has heard of Xiaomi, the one memory their brain will dredge up is “something phones £1 each scam”
D’you remember Dasani? When it launched in the UK there was a huge upset when it became known that it was bottled tap water. This was damaging but could’ve been ok, but then it emerged that it contained bromide. Again, not the end of the world – but put the two together and people just remember “poision water”*. Dasani as a brand is dead in the UK, Coke had to come up with another water brand for the London Olympics.
\* it didn’t help that there is a famous episode of the sitcom *Only Fools and Horses* where they bottle tap water and it turns out to have toxic waste in it. People were calling Dasani “Peckham Springs” after the brand from the programme!
Toto were not in China anymore
It was already posted here.
Conclusion was this has nothing to mean. There can be javascript codes you don’t see. But Xiaomi already answered that a stock request isn’t necessary since they knew it would be sold out directly. Thus they made a script to select the winner randomly
Yes, really https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-46183480
Too bad it was the same way even for less ludicrous deals, like 50% off on power banks and routers.
I think that’s what they said happened in their apology letter.
They said that the first people who were able to click the button were randomised and someone from that picked like a lottery and only then those three people would actually be able to go through a checkout experience.
Otherwise how would servers cope with so many people suddenly going through a checkout in the same second? At least I doubt they’re want to spend the money on the server costs for that.
Did no one read the reply to this tweet? They explained the code
You can take the Chinese company out of China, but you can’t take the China out of the company…
Or indonesia, 15 second seem normal.
Xiaomi brainwashed fanboys will defend this
Doesn’t surprise me when the UK social accounts have a huge language barrier.
Calling the first three attendants to visit the store on Sunday.
Yeah this is not acceptable and not only shady, its illegal under European consumer laws. A retailer is not allowed to lure people into their store with fake offers, you must have a “reasonable stock” of the item you are advertising. Same applies online.
Yep, it’s important to defend against those sort of people or you end up with a cult like Apple.
hello apple my old friend.
How can you view the javascript logic of a website?
You’re very angry.
You can put the javascript in an external Java file on your domain and hide it over a script tag and you won’t see that code in with the view source command, “you dumb ignorant person”.
Similar to what Google does.
Sure you could thereotically still access it but there’s still a chance OP could not see it.
Now pls shut up and don’t be butthurt because you’re that poor that you have to be desperate about Xiaomi Not giving you phones for 1£
The could still be an external javascript “hidden” with a script tag.
Also doesn’t change the fact that Xiaomi indeed doesn’t check stock but could have selected the person seeing the button randomly
As long as it’s client side (your computer downloads and runs it), you can see it. Look up how to access the developer tools for your browser.
This was the day I bit the bullet and bought a P20 Pro… Overpriced Mi8 they said only 5% profit cap.. bullshit.
What is this referencing?
Still Looks good
Developer tools
I don’t
But the price isn’t too good to be true, as in they could have easily done a legit promo with dozens/hundereds of 1 GBP phones, and it would have still been a profitable marketing campaign. There’s nothing too good about it, it’s run of the mill marketing.
This sketchiness possibly lost them profits vs had they just done it legitimately and swallowed the cost of a few phones as a standard marketing expense.
You’ve missed the point totally.
https://twitter.com/phil_williams81/status/1060871367812415488?s=19
“The “£1 flash sale” used our flash sale mode. Of the thousands who clicked “buy” simultaneously, the tie-breaker is done by selecting the winners randomly. Winners will access inventory to add to cart and proceed, which is why there was no call to check stock limit on the page.”
I am not either on Xiaomi’s side or angry customers’ side cause I didn’t even knew about this flash sale.
But I think that the OP should have posted the reply.
A coder who has studied javascript in this much detail is bound to be angry. Pity him.
Xiaomi brainwashed fanboy here. This was a stupid promo idea.
what did the terms and conditions say tho
Xiaomi didn’t need to do this. Their phones have earned a good reputation, the brand didn’t need to involve themselves with useless shit like this
Why do common sense and precaution bother you? And those 10 devices were actually sold, no scam took place. I keep trying to understand what people expected – hundreds of reasonably priced devices for virtually free on the day of launch? I understand that it’s never enough, even though other companies don’t or rarely attempt this. But no one can consider themselves ripped off even after paying the full price of a Xiaomi device.
If you’re going to come to the UK, don’t bring you’re dodgey “Chinese” business practices over here, we do not settle for crap like this and we do have strict governing laws rightfully against it.
It may be alright to do it in china and India, but really not over here
Not too good to be true for the company
Too good to be true as a consumer, even from a big company
No Chinese company is really the exemplar of good ethics, especially considering how they’ve blatantly copied Apple products for so long
Giveaways are nothing new.
>Otherwise how would servers cope with so many people suddenly going through a checkout in the same second? At least I doubt they’re want to spend the money on the server costs for that.
Wow!
It’ll be interesting to see if they can apply the [Chinese social credit system](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_System) to businesses.
I hope there are more like you.
Exactly. Companies give their stuff away all the time to reviewers, bloggers, YouTubers and other “influencers”. It’s a marketing tool.
The original code posted references the *flashBuyBtn* so does indeed look like it’s from the “flash sale mode”, though.
> those 10 devices were actually sold, no scam took place
Are you sure? The only independent evidence is to the contrary.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-46183480
It’s not as black and white, but keep in mind that these flash sales are hard to win online with far larger quantities, forget 10 devices at launch.
> It’s not as black and white
It’s hardly surprising that Xiaomi deny the story. No reason to take their denial at face value, though.
>it didn’t help that there is a famous episode of the sitcom *Only Fools and Horses* where they bottle tap water and it turns out to have toxic waste in it.
Such a great show, it’s a classic in Serbia as well.
I would never have guessed that! How is it perceived in Serbia?It’s a bit of a time capsule here, I don’t many younger people would ever have watched it. In a way it’s a victim of its own success; the best jokes have been repeated on clip shows so often they’re not as funny any more!
I don’t think people under 20 have watched it here either. British comedy has been popular in Serbia, with many sitcoms and comedy shows airing, but I think Only Fools and Horses is the only foreign TV show that has been absorbed into the culture, meaning that news will sometimes compare something to Del Boy machinations, and his catchphrase is quoted ironically in everyday discussions.
What’s the Serbian for Del Boy? And does he still butcher French, or a different language?