Wow, better specs than the Mi9? Where’s the catch??

Also adds an OLED screen, probably the wide angle cam… I’m fine with a pimped Note 7, it’s not like it’s a bad phone

*”The most probable price of the K20 PRO seems to be confirmed at around 360 euro.”*

Meaning for the 128gb or 64gb model? anyways tho if the price is around that, its still looks like a great specs for cheap. Like poco f1, but a lot better.

Also nice to see that they kept the 3.5mm jack. those type-c dongles suck ass.

It really isn’t a big change at all, they’re very very similar.

Miui is like stock+

the same thing as honor and huawei.
Next year we expect a rise in xiaomi prices, while redmi remains the economic one

From camera standpoint, not really..it has the same configuration as Mi 9 SE..but everything is almost the same as mi 9 except battery which is bigger..

Are you sure you’re not talking about the SE version ?

I believe that the basic model will cost 360 euro

i would take aluminium back over glass any day.

In-display fingerprint scanner is a stupid gimmick…

No plastic please.

Why tho? It’s not far off from the competition according to DXOmark, the P30 Pro has the best mobile cam, its main sits at f/1.5 and the aux at f/2.2
That’s not even half a stop from the f/1.8 and f/2.5 of this phone, in reality that’s quite neglectable in terms of pure light transmission. Software is the bigger factor here

You can still buy the Redmi Note 7 for around 150-200$. It’s not like Redmi is dropping the cheaper phones just because the K20 (Pro) exists

Any info on LTE bands? Getting these devices in the US is awesome, but only the Mi Mix is really set up for all the LTE :/

Camera may improve with coming revisions, bigger battery and NFC are a big plus and cheaper than the Mi 9

250$ at the end of the year – certainly not at launch

If the price seems too good then it’s probably too good to be real. I’m fairly confident that it is 360 euros without taxes. With taxes, at least in Italy, base model will be more towards the 450 euros, more in line with the Mi 9.

Also remember that they like to make models for offline vs online sales, honestly I see the mi line as trying to compete with one plus while redmi competes with honor

actually this page has always been true ,
was the first page to say on the 28th, when everyone was saying 20

Plastic or glasstic is actually good for a budget product. Keeps price down, better data/wifi/bt reception and lower SAR value.

Lol apple is just gonna also a new CPU and call it a new phone.

Oh wait…

6th generation optical fingerprint sensor? Not even exists that cuantity of phones with an optical sensor yet, I think.

If you go by this logic even the K20 will be available for cheap here. It’s about the relative difference in price.

It’s well known that prices fall below MSRP a few months after the phones release. If mi9 is superior to the k20 then k20 should have a lower price than mi9’s street price.

which model doesn’t have the glass back ?

The sensor is just one part of the camera. There is also the issue of the quality of the lenses in the camera module (just like SLR cameras), and whether there OIS. The cheaper lenses will not produce pictures that are as sharp/detailed.

Yeah sadly is like that https://www.miuruguay.com.uy/producto/pocophone-f1-6gb-64gb-graphite-black/ . Thanks il wait for it 🙂

Anything around $150? Redmi has always been the budget line up. Please don’t do this. Also, the cheapest budget Snapdragon 820 was 250$ two years ago. I don’t think there was a 40% inflation.

Yeah im defo gonna get the k20 pro by the looks of it my first xiaomi phone. Also yeah

That colour is also sick! I’d love a white version most, but I think the three we have are all nice

I went from 6P to Mi A2 and enjoying the phone quite a bit. Been using stock Android for so long I’m scared to try Xiaomi or anyone else’s UI.

Sorry regarding assuming you are someone different, didn’t check, my bad 🙁

That’s my point: the processing is much, MUCH more important than the actual aperture, at least looking at these numbers and about “significance”.

Xiaomi is still on #8 of DXOmarks list, and while the “usual suspects” are rated better that’s far from bad, nor a sign of bad image processing in general. Many Google, Huawai or Samsung phones score worse.

Judging a lens only by the aperture is a bit wild to me, sorry. Especially when we discuss such numbers – f/1.8 vs f/1.75? Seriously? That’s more than neglectable even in high-end photography. And of course other phones can perform worse or struggle, because the aperture is not the main issue and the f-number (again) doesn’t necessarily tell you anything about the actual transmission.

And an aperture is not linear, the difference between /1.4 and /1.8 isn’t the same as e.g. f/2 and f/2.4.

So talking significance – you think that example image is a significant difference? So a breaking performance hit?

wireless charging, glass build, more premium look, if you’re looking for this the mi line is where you go

GSMArena says it has stereo speakers…. Would that be likely? I mean, it seems a bit too unreal.

yes there are a few subtle differences which an average user wouldn’t even notice, with a good gcam apk it will be more than fine in my opinion, hell I’m using gcam on my OnePlus 3 and still amazed how great pictures it can take

Gcam with this sensor will be awesome but yes OIS would be nice but unlikely at the price they’ll sell at

Ok, but then it has to have someone more for example higher resolution screen or something else because now Mi9 stars at 450€ and this for 360€ for exactly same specifications + K20 has bigger battery.

Never posted here but I’m in for my first phone from xiaomi.

I’m so hyped!

I second this setup, I prefer it over stock android.

I went from a Nexus 6p I had for over 2 years to a Mi Max 3 and I’m not missing anything about the 6p and stock android.

gimme flame red now

I was saving for poco f1 (in my city is like 450usd), i want one phone to last 2 years? (Probably, i take much care with the phones. Still didnt break screen or fall to ground any phone)
But now should i wait for this or not? My friend told me that i’l be fine with poco since it have a good procesor and im not going to have problems referring to speed. Sorry for bad english and thanks in advance for tips and help, have a nice day.

Thanks that would be great 🙂

I guess that it is oriented for people who want to cheap out and buy Redmi 7 and may cash out a few extra bucks to buy this because of its value 🤔

I don’t get it. It is directly competitor to Xiaomi Mi9. Why are they sabotaging their flagship ?

Infact I’ll willing to place a bet they won’t have OIS

https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-xiaomi-mi-9-global

hope so !

Funny, most super wide lenses there are suck balls (speaking photography world). Sure, it’s probably better, the truly deciding factor lies in the processing still. As the f-number is directly related to the focal length, the difference is constant so the loss in light too, so in relation it doesn’t matter if we talk smartphone or middle format, the “significance” stays the same.

The image on the right is litreally only darker, as it’s the representation of what one stop means. It’s one stop of light, not even the half stop we discuss here. I’m having a hard time calling that significant; processing is.

Those specific metrics from DXOmark root from their heritage, and I share the same heritage so I kinda like the tests; gives me a better idea than most generic ones that get called for often. “Beating” in general is quite subjective in photography, more so in smartphones it seems (especially regarding the filtering of the image).

You can’t compare the aperture of a lens alone when talking about two entirely different systems and processings, that makes no sense at all. What you need to do is a common ground when you want to compare the transmission, not the same sensor in two entirely different systems. If at all, only if there was an untouched raw coming from it, which smartphones don’t provide (even in camera2 API). So I remind you of that example I showed you. That’s one stop of light. Yes, it is a simulation, but that doesn’t change the amount of light. That’s a difference, but not a significant one.

Kimovil give you coupons when you click. Yesterday that I had checked the price on bangood was 358 with the coupon. Today it might change. The price will fluctuate again.

Not really, xiaomi has a very granular product line but it seems to be working out for them. Their premium phones are usually branded under the mi mix name, the more traditional flagships (the ones with a glass sandwich design, good camera, no headphone jack, wireless charging, ext…) are the normal mi devices, then there’s pocophone which seems to be merging with redmi and they sit in the “flagship killer” category (with features like a big battery, flagship specs, headphone jack, but lacking the more premium design, build quality, camera and smaller features like wireless charging from the mi and mi mix line up)
And then there’s phones like the mi 9se and mi 8se which aren’t really flagships but include a lot of the features one might look for in w flagship with a midrange price. Those features being : 700 series chipsets which will be indistinguishable from a flagship processor for the great majority of the people buying these phones (unless you’re doing some heavy gaming/ video editing on your phone or need to redcord high quality high frame rate 4k footage), a decent camera compared to other slightly cheaper midrange phones, oled screen and most notably a flagship design and build.

Most probably a hybrid sim slot.

Don’t forget better camera, k20 uses the same camera assembly as the mi 9se which is good but falls somewhere between a flagship and a midrange camera.

Hype indeed. I hope there will be a 6/128GB version of the normal K20. I dont need a 855, just something to play FGO on without lagging and my Redmi 5 Plus isn’t really cutting it.

Poco f1 uses same sensor on pixel 3, and mi8

Realme X

Did i mention about image quality?