So a month ago my Samsung s8 plus finally died on me. I immediately needed a phone for work and reluctantly bought a mi 9t off a local classified ad. The dude collected phones so I got a “never used” mint one for $350 cad (around $240 US). I say reluctantly because you never know if it’s gonna be a cheap Chinese phone because of the price but considering how cheap it was I got it.
Goddamn I say son. Goddamn. Watching the mandolorian on this phone is amazing. Im constantly changing wallpapers and themes because everything looks so cool. Camera is awesome. Of course we will see how well this phone does with screen burn in a couple months ( I use my phone at full brightness and screen burned both my Samsungs in a few months). Also a little bit buggy here and there but nothing too bad.
I’m just really excited about phones now cuz I can afford to check out the next cool thing.
I asked my nephews and his friends if he’s ever heard of Xiaomi and none of them have. They all have iPhone 7 and dinosaur phones because they cant afford the next best thing. I feel like going door to door in my neighborhood to show people the light.
Also knock on wood that this phone doesn’t go to shit in 2 months.
Lmao
I dont remember xiaomi provided more than 2 android updates. But its doesnt change anything as they receive miui updates for 3 years with all features
Lol
>Manufacturing the SOC itself will be about the sme price, but the billions of dollars of research that went into making the SOC?
Qualcomm and Apple both spend billions on R&D, not sure what the question mark is for there..
>And btw, it has miles faster Single Core, Multi core, and Gpu. While I loge Xiaomi, don’t let your fanboyism take over actual facts 😉
Don’t let your *loge* make you a sheep, the [actual facts show the A12 and 855 to be very close with the A12 winning single core like I said, with the GPU/Multi-core being about even..](https://i.imgur.com/hLzLHyL.jpg)
#¯\\_(ツ)\_\/¯
Like a certain Youtuber said, “You can choose to buy a $350 phone to browse social media, or a $1000 phone to browse social media.”
When something is too affordable and too good to be true, there is a catch. I had to go through 4 replacements so far.
all these problems were with factory settings and no modifications done by me.
1) right out the box, bricked phone after automatic security patch update.
2) charging very slowly, 5 hours to from 10% to 100%
3) Wifi would not turn on
4) USB storage would not be detected by PC
I bought my first Redmi Note 4 new for $140, and now I see the Note 8 is on sale new for $104. No complaints from me. I love these phones. They have huge batteries, HEADPHONE jacks, infrared blaster and they’re cheap enough that I have TWO spares. One is $50 used Note 4 with a crack in the screen for experimenting with ROMS and the other is also new, in case I brick the $50 one or lose my original.
Manufacturing the SOC itself will be about the sme price, but the billions of dollars of research that went into making the SOC? And btw, it has miles faster Single Core, Multi core, and Gpu. While I loge Xiaomi, don’t let your fanboyism take over actual facts 😉
Cheers, mate! 🤠
I agree, but as you say, OLED is in another class from LCD.
Cheers 🍻
>perhaps you took it off the auto setting though, which is the only way it will ramp up that bright.
Perhaps.
Still does not take away from the fact that the panels used on iPhones, whether LCD, or OLED are best in class. That’s the point to take home.
Cheers.
i see.
I’m on a V20 and i own it because i can put a new battery in it.. “i was just like, 2 years for a closed up unit, holy cow”
I don’t understand, I’m a European and I’m not considered poor but an iPhone is still ULTRA expensive to me and there’s no way I’d consider ever getting one.
How come it’s popular in countries where the average citizen is so much poorer than in Europe?
Should definitely use it to discourage iPhone, Apple makes very few chip sets and the volume is huge – qualcomm makes 10x more.
Mi 9T Pro is already on Android 10, it will certainly get at least 11 and likely 12 as well and then you turn to the Custom rom market.
To be fair though, people like to talk about the OS updates but don’t talk about the software updates – there’s no reason why the iPhone XS doesn’t have a night mode in the camera app, other than Apple just not wanting to give it the update in order to make the iPhone 11 more enticing.
The iPhone XR and OnePLus 7 Pro both reach 600 nits of brightness – perhaps you took it off the auto setting though, which is the only way it will ramp up that bright.
It’s an LCD, closer to 720P than 1080P – so less pixels even than all their previous Plus phones from 6/6S/7/8 phones.
>Clusters on the Apple chipsets(just the performance ones)have the size of an entire snapdragon chip.
That’s simply untrue – the 845 was larger, 855 slightly smaller at 73 mm² vs the A12 at 83.27 mm².
>Also the RAM is different and pretty much all internals are more like “custom made” for Apple,no matter if the OEM is Samsung,ARM etc.
Of course ram is different.. but they both have the same ram speeds and there are only ~3 suppliers of ram, the cost is the same and the Mi 9T Pro has more of it.
>They always use A+ class displays from Samsung even for their LCD screens.
Samsung does not make the Apple LCD, they do make the Mi 9T Pro OLED though.. which is definitely better than the Apple LCD – so if costs were higher for Apples LCD they would just get the Mi 9T Pro screen tech instead.
>Their OLED surpasses the ones of their manufacturers(Samsung) these days according to DisplayMate.
They go back and forth, as they should, since Samsung is made of separate parts that operate almost independently and don’t hold back for large customers like Apple.
>,which is simply the best vibration specialised motor ever existed(it’s there since the iPhone 7)
The taptic engine IS the best, I agree – but it’s just a linear actuator – same thing as in the Nintendo HD Rumble feature on the Nintendo switch and not at all patented by Apple – it just takes more space.
High end products are always priced a lot higher than medium and low tiers. Top tier cars are ridiculously priced compared to average cars. Top tier PC parts are ridiculously priced compared to mid tier parts… Samsung and Huawei are also selling their phones for 1000€+
It is faster (at least in single core/thread), but that doesn’t mean it costs a lot more.
Yeah, no.
The scale they operate at with the number of devices and small number of chips they produce (A10 being in ipads/iphones/AppleTV/T2 chip, A13 powering all current phones) makes the engineering costs negligible.. if that were not the case their top of the line phones would use different chips than their latest budget offering.
WTF. Is this serious? LCD screens can go through a very wide price ranges, as OLED panels do. Today best LCDS are surprinsingly good, and are far better than bad OLEDs.
Not all RAM is equal. I think it’s weird to state this on a community with (supossed) above average computer knowledge.
Making their own chipset is EXPENSIVE. They have to put money on hardware development, while Xiaomi just uses a mass-produced design. If developing the Apple A12 was cheaper than Snapdragon 855, everyone would be developing their own chipsets.
Also iOS development is expensive. Xiaomi, on the other side, has a far smaller software department while Apple is known for acquiring lots of software companies, patents and engineering teams. Just ask investors why the value Apple higher than Xiaomi. All the software has a cost, and a value.
I love Xiaomi and I love my Mi9, also I used iPhone and I like it too. I understand both products, and I can have a preference without having to hate other options or having to invent unbelievable arguments that support my choice. I can love Xiaomi and recognize that Apple does some things right, and that their software R&D is huge.
i don’t wanna pay for the adverts!
This is why you have to consider why the phones are so cheap.
Some conspiratorial types might say that it’s because they (or other entities) are using them for spying and such, but I’m not one of them.
I believe that they want to grow their services business, and build an ecosystem that sticks people in, getting the real profit out later. Sounds a bit like… Apple.
I believe this [because they’ve said this](https://ww.9to5google.com/2019/03/25/xiaomi-profits/).
Just because the phone is good value compared to Apple right now doesn’t mean that it’s a good idea.
(I’m not saying buying one is a bad idea, just that you shouldn’t think of companies as trying to do right by you)
As opposed to Ye Olde adverts which were virtuous and pure.
BOM to AUR maybe cuts a 5% profit, but add in marketing, support, getting in to stores, etc and you’ve eaten away at that 5%. Especially in the west.
> It uses their own chipset, which has to reduce costs.
…no.
They still have to license ARM. They then have to hire chipset engineers if they actually want to improve those chips. Not just a random engineers either, [people who have wikipedia articles written about them](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Keller_(engineer\)) and [people who’s comings and goings are watched by the financial markets](https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/04/01/apple-loses-one-of-its-most-important-engineers.aspx).
Even then, the rank and file people in their chip design unit are going to be on big bucks.
Then you have to actually manufacture the things (I’m leaving out the prototyping and ramping here too). Do you pay someone else to do it, adding cost and risking your IP? Dr do you buy/build a fab for… [Ten Billion Dollars a year… and rising](https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3018890/tsmc-says-3nm-plant-could-cost-it-more-than-usd20bn)?
And you do all that, just to lose the subsidies and support of SoC providers (Snapdragon pay $$$ to keep people using their kit and growing the business).
Apple building their chips is a play for them to gain an edge, to improve photography, AR and other features we might not have even seen yet. It’s to move them a way from intel on the PC side of the business. The one thing it isn’t is an attempt to lower the BOM for an iPhone.
You are still new here, face ID is not something easy to implement, it’s not only 2d image processing, it’s 3D mapping. You have to measure thousand point on your face, processing it, and in less than 1 second, with success rate high enough that everyone can feel confident with it.
Kinect has already done this, but look at how big kinect is. Now you have to squeze the entire kinect into that “notch”, it takes uncountable engineer to make it right.
Apple also use their FaceID for money transaction, it means they are very confident in their system. Anything related to money has to be extremely reliable, that’s why banks still use outdated software and language like COBOL.
Source: i am in last year ofembedded software developing
I say this as someone who loves Xiaomi.
Apple utilises some of the best LCD panels in the business; never had issues using any of their devices outdoors, on the brightest of days.
To cite an example, I know the iPhone Xr gets a lot of flak from Android enthusiasts, but even this purportedly ‘inferior’ display was super crisp, and clearly legible under direct sunlight.
Heck, my iPhone SE worked just fine, but I had to squint, and cup my hand over my OnePlus 7 Pro’s display in order to read text on my screen, on a moderately sunny day.
90GHz refresh rates be damned! The thing was as dim as a pop-tart.
Cheers!
It needs an apk because it was not originally designed to so, which means the OS needs additional instructions in order to know how to interpret the data it’s recieving
“Face ID”. What’s so special about it? It’s a darn infrared emitter which is used to notice the depth of your face on different areas. Plastic surgeons use the same technology to find out where they should put implants in. It’s not magic, nor extraordinary. I’ve seen teenagers in elementary school do more sophisticated things.
The only thing I can give Apple credit for is the software base which is really well optimized, but just doesn’t justify these prices. As you can see in Xiaomi phones, the hardware they are using isn’t that expensive at all, they are just overpricing it. With a phone as expensive as that, if someone would want to do something, they would destroy everything on the market, but they are just trying to minimize their production costs to be able to put out more money. Do you really think the phones slow down that much cause they get old? No, they slow down because of all those “updates” which are meant to convince you that your phone is not powerful enough to support one or two more functions which come out every year? The stock OS is good, everything after that bricks your phone systematically.
Source: I will become a programmer, so I have a basic understanding of how all of the software works. OOP(object oriented programming) isn’t that hard at all and I can almost guarantee that given enough time and the resources Apple has, I can create an update without people needing to buy another phone.
no they don’t there policy is to sell for no more than a 5% profit but sell lots of products
Honestly it doesn’t matter what it costs. It could very well be that an iPhone is more expensive to make, especially considering they develop their own OS. But that doesn’t explain the massive price difference.
No one is saying they make cheap phones, they just want to make a ton of money per phone.
And Mi A4 Xiaomi when?
I think thats unfair. Samsung spends billions on advertising and software.
IDGAF about AI assistants and camera software but a lot of people do and developing that stuff isn’t cheap.
And every movieplex on the planet shows Galaxy ads before a movie.
Xiaomi is my all time favorite. my first flagship phone was galaxy s3 back then. after that i tried my hands on htc. again after a year i needed a new phone then i got redmi note 4 which won my heart. since then i love mi phones and got addicted to all mi products.
Xiaomi sells at a loss or no profit for most of their lineup, that’s not a viable strategy for Samsung or Apple.
You tell me, you said that their “ecosystem” is some shitty chips that even android can recognize with simple apk file.
I have had my Mi9 SE for about 4 months now and it’s actually getting better. The last firmware update really did some good things to it !
android needs apk but apple does what instantly?
and the 800p low-res display allows it to top gpu-bound benchmarks and also helps the puny 2900mAh battery.. these specs are a joke in 2019!
Android needs apk file for it, Apple does it instantly. It looks like you are ignorant about the fact that Apple is pouring money and resources to develop and make their ecosystem as good as possible while Android is just Android – everyone can do whatever they want, and oftenly it “Barely works”.
I love xiaomi
>Benchmark does not provide real world usage
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> And xiaomi phone top ones are among top 10 cameras ( open dxomark)
YEAH, you even don’t agree with yourself, at one point you dont agree with benchmark, but at other point you use dxomark, dxomark is as broken as benchmark software. look at their chart, look at how pixel 4 score same score mate 20 pro which release 1 year earlier.,dxomark is broken and will give high score to anyone who pays higher
i won’t say apple product is overprice, i wont say apple is not greedy, but saying apple $1000 iphone 11 pro is only as good as $300 or $500 xiaomi phone is non sense, pls stop this ridiculous arguing.
i dont hate Xiaomi. their product is great and i am typing this on mi notebook pro, but i hate their toxic fan base, and you are one of them
5G ready phones please
It works just fine because I’m not in US, but if I find myself back in US in the suburbs I definitely want band 12 support. Xiaomi phones work better in Canada because some carriers use band 5,7 like Europe so there is more compatibility in urban areas.
Arm core, not arm CPU, pls know the difference between them
The “performace gap is closing”, i have ever heard it from iphone 4, and now look at where we are.
Apple doesn’t make CPU, but they design it, and they PAY samsung to make cpu, it’s not free, and it’s not cheap, just like AMD has TSMC build their CPU.
Android aosp is free, but is google service free?, are you willing to use android phone without google store, youtube or any fancy google service?
And more over: have you ever wonder why Xiaomi phone has similar or better spec than samsung or pixel, but their picture quality is a joke compare to those phones?. Why do people have to install Gcam on xiaomi phone to get better picture?
Because Xiaomi has cut cost on developing software, and that is one of the reason Xiaomi phone is cheap.
You will be happy with you phone in 2 years,
True!
They say it’s not a problem, it is a modern display shape.
I hate notch, so i have a limited choice of phones with a simple rectangular screen.
They often want to spend a whole night out speaking about iphone, it’s hard to ignore them…
Their “own cheap chipset” actually cost a lot more, and is a generation ahead Androids… and also updates and speed.
wait…full brightness all the time??? No wonder you burn the screens in so quickly. Surprised you haven’t burnt in your retinas.
To me, flagship is top of the line phone of one brand, they dont have to be as expensive as other brand, but they “usually” are the most expensive phone of this brand. Spec wont say much anymore since the pocophone f1
So yeah, mi9 and mi mix 3 should be flagship of xiaomi
Well, i thought we are talking about flagship phones?, samsung still keeps their headphone jack on mid range phone, like xiaomi, they haven’t remove headphone jack on budget redmi phome
It can happen, but it is very rare on LCDs, a lot more frequent on OLEDs
Not only apple, but more and more manufactures follow this
Samsung made fun of apple when they removed headphone jack, and now look at them, look at their samsung note 10.
Xiaomi begins removing headphone jack since mi8
I wont say this is a good thing, i want to say that apple is not only the bad guy
It’s funny cuz I got a pro version for that price here in China. What I’m trying to say is that yes these phones are soooo cheap
If you’re in N.A. just be aware that almost all Xiaomi phones do not have good 4G support for N.A. especially in USA.
> Why all the personal attacks? I’m delusional cos I didn’t do crazy in-depth research on an iPhone and looked at GSM Arena’s compare feature?
No, and admittedly my wording was a bit harsh.
That being said, expecting one of the best selling relatively expensive phones of 2019 to be the same as one of the cheapest phones in a budget lineup should raise some questions, no?
>Australia, we have shit net here. They also don’t have anyone techy to fix their tech. It’s an old plan they are on and they haven’t updated their modem.
That’s unfortunate, I’d still recommend getting them a new router if possible however. 5G WiFi is also useful in that it has no interference with similar wireless transmissions (microwave signals, bluetooth, etc. can all interfere with 2.4Ghz WiFi). Plus, eventually they’ll hopefully get more modern internet technology.
>In no way shape or form will a Xiaomi Flagship phone compare to a main brand flagship phone.
They’re actually getting very close, my original Mi Mix was stunning compared to other phones from 2016 (and I’d say even some today). Their upper midrange lines generally perform about as well as the most expensive Android flagships, just lacking in camera, haptics, speakers and other quality of life features like official water resistance. Xiaomi does have their own bleeding edge technology as well such as the Mi Mix Alpha.
The Mi Max 3 was more of a midrange (to upper midrange) phone, so it has a much better camera than the 8a will have. Shame they discontinued the Max lineup, I would’ve considered one for a media consumption device.
About the phone going to shit – there should be no worries on this front. I am on my 3rd Xiaomi phone (all Redmi line – more affordable while still doing the job). The first one (Redmi 3S) lasted close to 2 years (still usable), second one’s (Redmi Note 4) USB port broke after a year (still completely functional after I imported the part and replaced it myself), third one (Redmi Note 7) I bought 6 months ago and love it.
These phones can last a while.
They pay google to use google service, not android, android is open source, everyone can use.
Yes, of course Xiaomi pays Google for the Android OS, that’s how everyone gets it… It can’t be for free, man. After buying the OS from Google, they still have to pay developers to port it to MIUI, so the whole “Have to develop their own” point is moot
It’s basically my fault as I’m pretty rough with phones. (They’re always in my woodworking shop) I can just be rough with a way more inexpensive phone but Im also making an effort to keep this phone mint. 😀
Thanks, i agree that they are “overprice” premium phone, but not as bad as the original comment.
That’s why I make sure to snap at least one dick pic a day so that he doesn’t get too lonely doing all his, uh, dictatorial things and such.
Haha, welcome to the community my man…yes its quite rare to find Mi phones in the west. Cz most of you ppl use apple or samsung. Here in India, you will find a Xiaomi phone with atleast 6 people out of 10, and the rest will most probably have one+ or samsung.
Cz, these phones are giving the same specs as the highest end samsung and pixel..the POCO F1 brought this trend with xiaomi, and it was cheaper than One+ 6/6T.it was called the flagship killer killer…and the build is not cheap at all.it is great value for the price. And the hardwares are same, u can get a Gcam mod for mi 9T and get the same experience as the pixel camera.
Lot of customization options too. Like,The gesture mode that came in Android 10 now…i have been using it in my Pocof1 for over a year.
And the new MIUI 11 is a breeze and has got great optimization with RAM usage,never over 32-35% when idle. Even with 25% apps in the background.really snappy.!
Loving this, i wish to get POCO F2 if its gonna launch in the near future
I talking about “developing”, not replicating.
R&D, that’s what costs money
Clusters on the Apple chipsets(just the performance ones)have the size of an entire snapdragon chip.Thus much more silicone,millions more transistors in there,so way more expensive to fabricate.
Also the RAM is different and pretty much all internals are more like “custom made” for Apple,no matter if the OEM is Samsung,ARM etc.
They always use A+ class displays from Samsung even for their LCD screens.Their retina 720p screens are easily comparable with many FHD and even UHD in terms of display quality and user experience.Their OLED surpasses the ones of their manufacturers(Samsung) these days according to DisplayMate.As well as the tech behind 3D Touch included(stopped on the XS/XS Max)a separate pressure sensitive layer which was working in tandem with the Haptic engine,which is simply the best vibration specialised motor ever existed(it’s there since the iPhone 7)
Sure they make a profit,it’s a market after all,but the materials and internals in these phones are quite specialised,they are not cheapskates and they are actually really good.
First: justify or not, we can’t talk muc, they have best performance CPU on smartphone, even if samsung want to buy and put it into their 2000$ galaxy fold, they can’t.
Second: you really think developing Ios and miui cost the same?, oh how innocent you are
Ios costs tons of money to make it right, to make everything in “apple ecosystem” works together. From airpod to apple watch, they are all depend on IOS. Xiaomi still haven’t reach their level.
I want to stop arguing with you until you do more research
IPhone 11 has an LCD ? For 700$?! At this point it’s just sad to see how people are getting ripped off.
All the points you made are valid and just prove how shameful is Apple pricing.
That being said the iPhone 11 will still get iOS and security updates 5 years from now, Mi 9T will only go to Android 10 and in my experience with the PocoF1 will be constantly at least 2-4 months behind the latest security update even while on the “actively updated” list. Also the number of potential backdoors in the phone is at least 2-3 times bigger than in the iPhone case.
This is where specs on paper don’t matter for shit.
– The worse modem will absolutely make a difference. While Qualcomm’s higher end chips with flagship modems tend to have noticeably better performance than concurrent iPhones, this is not true at all for lower end SD chips.
– Where the fuck are they living that there’s still no 5G WiFi? Laptops have had 5G WiFi since 2006 and phones since 2011.
– The iPhone screen is almost certainly more than just “slightly better”.
>CPU Redmi 2 extra cores but slower clock would feel the same.
What a fucking ignorant comment.
Here’s what a [Snapdragon 439 scores in Geekbench.](https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/752680)
Single core: 177
Multicore: 815
[As for the A12 in the Xr?](https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/786054)
Single core: 1110
Multicore: 2725
Yeah, literally one core of the A12 is more than enough to outperform all 8 (low end A53) cores of the SD439 combined. But hey, since the core count and clockspeed are similar they must perform similarly right?
>main camera similar (vid better on iphone), not an issue for the end user
LMAO
If you think that pictures are similar then you’re beyond delusional. Once again, the Xr didn’t have an exemplary camera at all but you best bet it won’t be taking pictures like [this](https://cdn57.androidauthority.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Redmi-8A-close-up-image-900×675.jpg).
Similarly, the 1MP extra on the selfie camera 8a is irrelevant when the actual pictures it takes are garbage.
>face id and all the extra are in miui11
Once again, showing your ignorance.
Face ID is 3D based facial recognition that’s secure enough to be used as biometric authentication. The only Android phones with proper face unlock have additional hardware (ex. Note 7-S9 have iris scanners, S10+ 5G has an additional sensor compared to the regular S10+, Pixel 4 has all that extra hardware in the huge forehead, Mate 20 Pro has a large notch for more advanced scanning, even the Pocophone has IR image recognition). The shitty 2D face unlock used with phones like these are purely for convenience and are more likely than not to unlock with just a picture of your face.
>The end user is a kid 13-15 that just uses social apps getting it as a Xmas gift. The kid also isn’t tech inclined.
That’s good. I’m sure they’ll love and enjoy the phone, it has great value for ~$100 USD after all.
That doesn’t make it anywhere near as good as an Android or iPhone flagship.
Face ID: that shit doesn’t come from thin air
Custom high end CPU: ask qualcom how much they spend when developing snapdragon 855, and yet it is still slower than the cpu of iphone 11. And remember qualcom makes cpu for market, and apple make cpu only for themself, so they eat all the cost.
Ios: does xiaomi pay google to develop android, apple has to develop their own OS
And many thing, i know xiaomi makes great phone, but dont use that to discourage iphone
They are just making too much profit
They are just doing too much profit
A 2 year old $1000 phone died on you? Just wow.
Xiaomi is the biggest seller of IoT objects of the world, but it’s an unknown fact in Occidental countries. And the 5th or so smartphone maker.
How the fuck are they “almost identical”?
The Redmi screen is shit in comparison (in every way), the SoC is maybe 1/6 as fast as the A12, the eMMC used is similarly maybe 1/6 as fast, the camera is complete shit, etc. The Redmi doesn’t even support 5Ghz WiFi.
iPhones aren’t particularly good value for money but you’re delusional if you think a shitty low end Xiaomi is as good.
Wow. 5%. And I agree. They’re getting their name out there. A few years ago, Xiaomi was a no name. But now look at us. Who would’ve thought? Not me.
Yeah, it’s skewed towards the lower end, if anything.
Someone has a charger for Samsung??
Always confused me.. even people with different Android brands ask for a Samsung charger.
Well all things considered you’re paying for access to the apple iOS, more than anything, the price for the phones looking exclusively at the BOM, is skewed for that reason. They market their software more than anything.
There isn’t, it’s usually the industry’s educated guess at best. I don’t want to go down the rabbit hole to have a spreadsheet listing all the differences between 9T pro and iPhone 11 and all the sources, and debating between MIUI and iOS, so feel free to disagree.
Compared to the Mi 9T Pro, what part of the iPhone 11 (non-pro) is more expensive?
It uses an LCD screen instead of a Samsung OLED like the Mi.
It has less ram, which is quite expensive.
It uses their own chipset, which has to reduce costs.
It uses off label Gorilla Glass, just like the Mi.
I doubt there is an accurate BOM out there for the iPhone.
Apple’s estimated BOM is close to $400 IIRC, iPhones are expensive phones to make. I kinda don’t see Apple is pricing their phones absurdly, but the $300 phones are already good enough.
I recently upgraded to a redmi note 8 pro, amazing phone with an amazing price, I’m really impressed. Xiaomi actually used to sell their phones at the price that they were manufactured for just to make their brand more wide known, and it’s great to see that they still make amazing devices for cheap. I know when I used to listen to big tech youtubers about xiaomi phones, they would say that the software is crap and the camera is good but not as good as flagships. Pleased to see that they were wrong, after 1 month of using MIUI I have to say that it’s better than stock android imo. A lot of options, very smooth and fast. As far as the camera goes, I would say it rivals flagships, the Pixel and iPhone are overrated, they do have nice colors, but they don’t have nearly as much detail, depth of field or crispiness as something like a mi note 10.
Some tips you need to do : install Gcam mod (check XDA), change your launcher to Poco launcher (install from play store), explore the setting menu and developer option (decrease animation delay, etc)
that’s the average price. I thought you meant 170usd
I’ve read they are making 5% profit. I’ve also read it’s to get the brand out there, which btw is actually working because I’ve made this thread and I want to tell my family members this Christmas. LMAO.
How did you discover Xiaomi?
I’d ask them how they like that huge notch.
I did that, it sees the computer but doesn’t see the TV 🙁
del5eted.
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I haven’t tried that tbh
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del5eted.
I also have a Redmi Note 7. I couldn’t find a way to use it for wifi calling or casting it to a (Samsung TV). Are either possible?
Ok, but I have burns one permanent in my A1
AMOLED suffers from screen burn in, much more terrible than LCD as it is going to be permanent if the image is static for extended period of time. LCD burn in (image persistence) are temporary due to the way it is built.
A while back, I think one of the CEOs of XiaoMi in China (don’t quote me lol), or some person of authority in the company, said that their phones aren’t making a profit. In other words, they’re breaking even with their phones. That may explain why they’re so cheap. Meanwhile, Apple is making SOOOO much profit for devices that cost them nothing to make.
> now i can afford to check the next cool thing
This was my first idea when i got my mi9t. But i don’t think i will replace it soon. I really like this phone.
I had only samsung in the last 8 years, now they are too expensive and offer less and less. My old galaxy s3 and note 3 offered a lot more than my last s9. After 6 years i expected more features, not more bloatware.
And you are right, samsung screen burned easily. I had my telegram message screen and keyboard visible on white background…
This mi9t is better than i expected. It costed me 320€ and it’s far better than my old samsung s9 that still costs more.
The only defects i found are the usb port, it is slower than i expected but you can solve with an anker cable, and the popup camera that pops out when people videocall me on whatsapp, and if i have the phone in my jeans poket i can break the camera (but it is whatsapp’s fault, you can’t deactivate videocalls. I solved removing camera permission on whatsapp and inviting more and more friends on telegram)
> iPhone fanboys all around
Two of my friends have iPhone 8 and X and they are the worst kind of fangirls. They speak about their phones as the best human invention after the wheel. They constantly try to mock me and other friends with android phones (samsung, huawei and more recently xiaomi)
Their reasons:
– iPhone is easier to use (then use it and don’t bother me)
– android always lags (i hear this critic since 2011, still looking for those major lags on high end phones)
– android uses too much ram (not your business, let it do its job)
– Apple is more reliable (my phones aren’t shit, you know?)
– good battery life (yeah, i need an hamster and a portable wheel to charge my phone)
– best camera ever (hold my beer)
– best technology (no comment)
– you pay, you get quality (yeah, let’s discuss about it)
– iPhone lasts longer than your chinese and korean crap (nice joke)
– iPhone has more covers, so you can buy a dozen of them and choose the best one for every occasion (i’ve always found good covers, and i usually need only one)
To disturb my iPhone friends, i put the small mark “shot on mi9t” and my name on every picture i shoot. It’s a nice option, and i can remind them how proud i am of my choice.
Am i a fangirl? Maybe. I suggest people to have a look at Xiaomi brand when they need a new phone and show them mine. Let’s spread the word!
It will burn if you have a still image showing for 24 hr
Is amoled so no screen burn whatsoever, in LCD maybe. My problems with the 9T: battery draining and little scratches in the front crystal. I got it since july
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Xiaomi are great phones but it highlights how silly the prices are from Apple and Samsung
ever since I started owning a pocophone f1 I’ve never thought of switching ever again to another brand. I switched to a 9t pro a few months after so that’s also nice ♥️
I got this Redmi Note 5 Pro for 1.5 years now and it’s still rocking (other than a faulty vibrator). For me most of the general consumer don’t even need the highest end phone as most of the tasks they do, like using social media, watch videos or gaming don’t even need the highest end phone. Getting Redmi (or Realme, a direct competitor for Redmi) phones is going to do all that just fine will keeping your wallet happy for few years.
One of the few reason someone having a mid-range phone experiencing sub-par performance is keeping apps that they don’t need and dumping everything on the home screen. It’s just clutter the app drawer and make your phone feel sluggish.
Thanks for spreading the word on how good Xiaomi phones are! I have a Redmi Note 7 and it’s fantastic, been using it for 5 months now and it’s running perfectly fine, the camera is also great, overall it’s a gorgeous phone. My friend is getting the Mi 9T Pro after I showed him that iPhones aren’t really that great (as in price – quality), and he said he felt scammed. Excellent phones from Xiaomi and at every price point.
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Many people around me still buy 700-1000$ phones showing how cool their phones are, and sometimes I even feel uncomfortable to tell them that xiaomi offer the same at 300$ price, because anyway nobody gonna accept these facts after spending so much money. I dont even understand how this informational shield works. Dont people at least try to google what manufacturers offer nowadays and price comparison? Or they still just go to the nearest shop asking consultant who is barely know difference between phones. Its like I remember I went to like 5 smartphone shops in uk and none of them had consultants who know what is OnePlus, not talking about Xiaomi, because they never had them in shop. And how can we ask advice from people who basically lives outside of what happening in IT world. After that we have whole countries who think that Apple and Samsung are the only phone manufacturer’s. What I’m talking about, here in uk people call microUSB or typeC charger as “samsung charger”. I heard it so many times…