My choices are Mi 11 Ultra (if it materialises) or Sony Xperia 1 III.

\- Has your Mi 11 cooled down now ?

\- If a Mi 11 Ultra comes about would you recommend it on the basis of your experiences with the Mi 10 Ultra ?

We are not talking about miui is trash or not. Optimisation is the problem. Moto is also generally known for pushing out phones with buggy and trashy updates. I bet flash some custom rom on that device and check. It will run fine and better than the redmi 9. My moms galaxy m30 (exynos 9611) is faster than my note 7 with snapdragon 660. Also if phone can’t use basic android function it can also be called bad os. Install split apk without disabling miui optimisation, which is impossible. Aggressive ram management. Lockscreen notification issue. There are tons of issues that hasn’t been solved in last two years when i bought redmi device.

Moto z is a 2016 phone with older ~~emmc~~flash memory , older hardware and comparing it with a 2020 device is just plain wrong. There are many things that affects the performance of a device. The degradation of moto z flash memory is enough to affect the performance drastically. Older chipset (doesn’t matter it is 800series) with very less efficiency than even current budget/midrange devices. There is no single point of comparison. And to be honest we recently bought a poco phone with 4/64 configuration. After installing some apps it started showing ui lags and slowness. It runs miui 12 out of box. Can’t imagine how the phone will be in an year. Great hardware is often ruined by their software. I am using redmi note 7, bought during launch and it was fine then. Gradually with updates it slowed down. Gsi roms like oneui, oxygen os and realui runs fine without issue in my phone. Miui is the one that sucks. Laggy and freeze. Custom roms is so smooth.

Moto z and mi 10 lite can’t be compared. It will obviously have difference. When you check mi 10 lite with a same specced phones you will understand the difference. Miui after 6 months will be a laggy mess compared to stock or other android versions. When you use mi 10 lite it will feel faster because of good hardware. The same hardware performs far more better with custom roms or other oem skins. Optimisation plays a serious role. Mi 10 ultra is the only one optimised well for miui 12. That flies like any other android phone with same specs. But sooner or later xiaomi will destroy that. Xiaomi only takes care of their present phones in market.

> I expect to not lose 10-20% battery overnight when nothing is running.

Xiaomi is very sorry for putting a good sized battery in their phones rather than a joke

they’re sorry

🙁

I had stock Android on a Moto Z and it was nowhere near as fast as MIUI on my Mi 10 Lite. I know the Mi 10 Lite is faster hardware wise but it is like night and day. Mi 10 Lite is as fast as my computer.

Likewise, you wouldn’t be in a Xiaomi subreddit if your pockets were deep.

I hope your wallet is as big as your mouth.

Idiot, it’s not the money. Xiaomi 10 is too heavy. I went to consider it but the galaxy s20+ is much lighter.

Time to use a custom rom

Really? Whenever I go on Apple daily tech support I see complaints all the time. Don’t remember if reddit specifically but general stuttering of the phone, quite a lot.

not really. I made the mistake of buying a note 9S.

1st mistake cause it’s FLIPPING HUGE and uncomfortable for 1 handed use and 2nd mistake Xiaomi updated miui but purposefully left “budget/mid-tier” phones out of some features.

also have dust in my camera module, although I never opened the phone up, lmao (I have to check if I can RMA it and possibly get my money back or another phone on the same price range).

You get that on literally any phone. Even iphones.

I’ve also got the M10T Pro. I’m very happy with it. I’d like the 888 but I’m not in a rush. Need to see real world benefits. This phone is already faster than my fingers and my eyes. 😂

I get quite a few stutters ,especially on the reddit app.

I agree. Sd855 is already more than sufficient for all the current uses in a smartphone and can play all games on max graphics. I’m using a sd865 phone and miui has to repeatedly reload apps after prematurely killing them. My girlfriend has a pixel which is buttery smooth through optimisation.

People who have only used miui or used miui for so long thinks that it is well optimised and faster. But when we try different phone with same spec or another os, we understand that the phones with these specs are able to do more. Lack of optimization is a serious issue. And many annoying bugs and xiaomi intentionally destroyed many core android features which makes it difficult for many apps and split apk is pain in the ass in Xiaomi phones.

Xiaomi Mi 11 or Xiaomi Mix ??

No idea but if it’s implemented in the stock camera app I think it should

What’s wrong with the performance of that one? I had a Mi 9T, it’s little brother, so I’m kind of curious.

Well now that’s a concern to me haha

Let’s hope mine lasts fine.

Doesn’t it bother you that it doesn’t have an OLED screen?

What are you looking for upgrade?

I had a very hard time deciding between my phone and the Oneplus 8t, went with Xiaomi cause the price.

When you just bought mi 10t thinkint you’ll use it for at least 2 years 🤡

The second part of your comment seems more true lol

Btw the Snapdragon 888 is not fake, Qualcomm announced it this week.

Okay, so I have an issue with this trend. Phone processors continue to get faster and faster and that is great and somewhat noticeable from generation to generation but the real issue is MIUI. It needs help. It severely needs optimization and I will compare it to IOS because that is the peak optimization from my point of view.

Xiaomi makes incredible phones (Mi 9T Pro user myself) but the one thing that will hold it back is currently the Software and the fact that it is pretty average.

Can’t wait to buy this on Black Friday 2021.

I was going to get the Mi 10T pro too. Damn I’m going to get jealous with the new 888 chipsets.